An Open Response to Brad Scott
3: Gematria & the Apostle Paul
and in quotes.
B: "The teaching of gematria and equidistant
letter sequencing is taught by Hal Lindsay, Grant Jeffrey, Chuck Missler and a
host of other well known, well papered authors. Are they on your hit list? Are
they proclaimed to be 'kabbalists'. Are they teaching the occult?"
Well, in a word, yes...they and you are
teaching a known to be gnostic and occultic understanding of the Messiah and the Scriptures. Hal
Lindsey I haven't written much about, but yes, Grant Jeffrey and Chuck Missler I
have. If people are united in
beliefs or in organizations, one can assume that if one is discussing that
belief or organization, the members or purveyors of the belief will be discussed
at some point. Nothing 'hit list' or malicious or slanderous about it. It is
merely researching and reporting on particular information.
Gematria is a kabbalist teaching that Christians have no
business dabbling in. It is the occult.
Anyone who has done in-depth research into
the kabbalah and it's origins, knows that Jewish
historians record it as a vehicle used to bring gnostic
doctrine into Judaism, and historically, most rejected
it as the occult. Nothing has changed, except perhaps
it's acceptance in varied forms in all religions. See: To
Embrace Hebrew Roots; Part
V... The Kabbalah; Part
VI... Kabbalah Initiation ; Part
VII... Kabbalah Connections ; Part
VIII... Literal Kabbalah: Gematria & Numerology;
IX... Practical Kabbalah: Talismans & Masters of the
It's noteworthy that a Jewish missionary to
the Jews wrote me and said this about my information:
"Thank you for all the work you have put into
this site. I am Jewish by birth having become a believer in Jesus as Messiah
twelve years ago. I am a full time missionary to the Jewish people and I use
your website as a resource for helpful information. I embrace my Jewishness as
my national and cultural identity, but my faith is as a Christian. ... Your work on the Talmud and kabbalah is right on and I am so blessed by all
the information you have provided. Thank you for all that you do."
From the article: MJAA
Executives & The Hebrew Roots "Fringe":
needs to be made very clear that the influx of kabbalah is not just a
"Messianic" issue. The inroads into Christian forums, teachings and
churches is happening daily. 'Christian' icons such as Grant Jeffrey, readily
teach it in their writings, in interviews, such as his television interview with
Benny Hinn, promotion of kabbalist gematria via 'Bible codes' and so on. Grant's
latest promotion of the zohar found on his web site, presents the 'kabbalist
trinity. [The Sacred Mystery of the Trinity >
The Gospel of Truth??:
Jeffrey, Hal Lindsey and Chuck Missler also promote the
popular Bible Codes, the Christianized version of occult
numerology, and many are openly involved in the ecumenical
movement. Please read the reports on the Hebrew Roots
Movement, specifically Part
VIII: Gematria and Numerology, to understand Bible codes.
From the article: Prasch,
Hunt & Others .
Question & Answer section of the September 1996
issue of THE BEREAN CALL, we read of the full support of
the same Bible Codes that Chuck Missler
and Grant Jeffrey and
many others promote.
upon that limited knowledge and experience, I see no
alternative but to believe God encoded the Torah with these
and many other sequences involving modern persons..."
February 1998 issue of the The Berean Call, "Back
to the Bible 'Code," by Dave Hunt and T.A. McMahon
rescind that support and state, "...the primary claim is
that God not only communicated through the normal text ...he
encoded words, hidden for more than three millenia which could
only be deciphered through ...computers. We stated in the past
TBC newsletters (10/96; 2/97) that if the claim held up under
valid scrutiny, we could see "no alternative but to
believe God encoded the Torah...." "Selected words
are searched ...the method uses a skip code...ELS....Our
earlier willingness to go along with the "code" was
based upon the assumption that it was founded upon irrefutable
mathematics. That now seems clearly not to be the case, There
are enough qualified experts who claim to be able to refute
the "code" to cause us to back away from giving it
discussing the idea that the whole thing was to prove God's
Word to be true through scientific means, they then go into
the Scriptures. That should have been the guide in the first
place as to whether the Codes were a valid belief.
Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by
inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for
reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished
unto all good works."
We need no
proof about the Word of God from science--you believe by faith
or you do not. ELS is merely a version of the many
methods and computations of, "Gematria (Heb.). A
division of the practical Kabbalah. It shows the numerical
value of Hebrew words by summing up the values of the letters
composing them; and further, it shows by this means, analogies
between words and phrases. [w.w.w.] One of the methods
(arithmetical) for extracting the hidden meaning from letters,
words and sentences..." 60
the writings in Literal
Kabbalah: Gematria and Numerology, the web site of
Theomatics provides these insights into Bible codes and it's
various names. Theomatics suggests that ELS is not
there are two types of Bible codes. One is the ELS evidence
(Equi-distant Letter Sequences), also known as "Torah
kind of code is "theomatics." The foundational
basis for theomatics has been known for thousands of years,
ever since the time before Christ. It is commonly referred
to by the term gematria. It was in 1975 that this original
code in the Bible ~ known for thousands of years but never
deciphered ~ began to reveal itself ..." 61
48:16 "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have
not spoken in secret from the beginning..."
It needs to be pointed out
that Dave Hunt and Tom McMahon at first embraced the Bible codes and promoted
them in their Berean Call, and later rescinded. The equidistant letter sequence
that you speak of Brad, is merely a variation of kabbalist gematria and numerology.
From my CNP or Council for National Policy
biography of false prophet Chuck Missler:
- CNP Member 1998; Executive
Director, Koinonia House
author, The Magog Invasion; editor, Personal UPDATE,
a monthly news journal; host, a daily news and commentary
radio program; website Alien
Promotes Bible Codes, better known as Gematria,
along with Grant Jeffrey and Hal Lindsey; a contributing
writer for CITIZENS' INTELLIGENCE DIGEST, which is an official
publication of CITIZENS FOR HONEST GOVERNMENT whose President
Promoter of Gospel 'Zodiac'.
The Gospel of Truth??; Myths
and Legends are a Legacy of Truth? > Topic
Occult Inroads> Symbolism
a review committee for the International Standard Version.
Belongs to the Alexandrian Scholars Union...."
See also: More Ecumenical "Comrades";
For the CNP See: The
Council for National Policy: What It Is; topiccnp
is no less 'occultic' than the teachings of Chuck Missler, J.R. Church,
E. W. Bullinger, Chuck Swindoll or Henry Soltau.
You can do a site search on my site and read
about these various people. I believe I may have written about all, except perhaps
Henry Soltau. And then of course the articles listed above do include those
2 Corinthians 7:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
B: "My purpose in the
teaching series you attacked is to use the dynamics of the Hebrew language
to inspire God's people to study and research the scriptures to find His
wonderful, awesome treasures for themselves. My ultimate purpose is to
defend the scriptures and not to defend Christianity."
That is obvious. On your website, you state,
"Are you ready to finally give a life changing answer to all of your
friends and loved ones who would rather continue to march to Christian theology
than even look at the truth?" You have also taught that the Name of Jesus
The problem is Brad, that
while there are errors, false teaching, heresy and false
prophets that fall under the canopy of what is called
Christian, and which we are clearly warned about, there is just as much evidence of those same issues
under what you call, Hebraic Roots, messianic, and your
'returning to your Jewish roots.'
I should point out, I did not "attack you" or
"your teachings." I was asked a question and asked for an opinion and
gave factual information as well as personal evaluation and opinion. I stand by
those statements and opinions. Incidentally, in the original email -- you were not
the only one discussed regarding the 'pure language' issue. I discussed it and
provided an overview of the issue to the recipient of the email. Where you think
it was all about you, you are mistaken.
B: "Are you consistent with these
accusations, are do you only use them when something Jewish is involved? Your
is not subtle in the least. I suppose you teach that the
holocaust never happened."
And further down Brad, you said:
"I would admit that many of them would be
well-degreed Jewish scholars. With this in mind I can
probably assume that you would not be interested in the opinions of
JEWS! I would remind you that our redeemer is a Yehudim, obeyed all the
commandments of God and told you and I to take up our cross and FOLLOW
Now Bradford. This is where I always get taken
to, by people like yourself. I must be an anti-semite--even though there is no
proof you are Jewish or rather are just one of the many taking on Jewish
traditions without the heritage.
I have to be an anti-semite because.....I challenged your
teaching, credibility and knowledge?
I have to be an anti-semite because.....I have a website with close to 400
articles, that deals with all of the many Christian movements and church
leadership, while the rest of the website articles deal with the Hebraic and Messianic
movements, the occult or other issues of concern for Believers? Which reminds me Brad. Are
Brad, I always find it interesting
when those not born of Jewish heritage such as James Trimm, Tom Mitchell, and now you, accuse me of being an anti semite. As a matter of
fact, I have many Jewish believers who write me because they enjoy my articles. One group
me to their on line study group to discuss some things. That group consists of a Messianic
rabbi, the daughter of a holocaust survivor, and other Jewish believers. I have
also had positive correspondence with orthodox Jews,
since 1999. Here are examples of quotes from Jewish
"As a Jew, which to me means among other things Not-a-Christian, I salute
and praise your diligent scholarship and willingness to maintain the
theological dividing line between us that preserves the integrity or
each of our religions, while we love each other as humans..."
"...by standing up to your fellow
Christians who would adopt the practices and manifestations of Judaism to fraudulent effect in their dealings with
the Jews, you are a blessed friend--perhaps unwittingly and
notwithstanding your desire to see the Jews accept Christ as the
Messiah, which is fundamental to some branches of Christianity and will
forever be a source of friction between us real Jews and real
As Jews, they do not view me
as anti semitic, which should be good enough, for those who like to make those
foolish and unfounded accusations. I have never been accused of anti-semitism by anyone of real Jewish heritage, only by those who were born Gentile, raised Christian, and now believe that they have some connection to Judaism.
As a Berean, I do not care if something is Jewish
or non-Jewish, Christian or otherwise, but whether it is the truth, and can
stand the test of Scripture.
Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that
they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures
daily, whether those things were so.
12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
While I might not agree with the Hebraic Roots
movement, partly due to all that I have written about, it has not stopped people
like Jewish believer Steven Avery, moderator of one of the largest and most scholarly Messianic discussion forums, who also moderates many live Messianic talk
forums, from utilizing my articles. Particularly the
ones about the movement
itself, and the writings concerning kabbalah, the various leadership like James
Trimm, Michael Rood, Moshe Koniuchowsky and so on. Steven incidentally, is
not in agreement with your teaching of
the Hebrew NT, and also the use of the name
"Yahshua." Steven and I may not be in agreement on some issues, but he has never viewed me as anti
And I suspect if he thought for an instant that I was, he
would be very clear on that. Moishe Rosen, founder of
Jews for Jesus has also written and thanked me for the information
presented in various articles.
So the usual anti-semite rhetoric that
invariably comes forth from people being held to the test of Scripture, is as worthless as
the many credentials and letters behind the names of people like James Trimm,
Don Hargis, David Hargis, Ralph Messer, Michael Rood and many, many more. In the
future, you might wish to validate your statements before
saying such things. I believe it's
statements like what you and others have made, that
fall under the heading of "slanderous" and "lashon hara."
B: "Did you listen to the tape series on the Hebrew
language? You could not have listened to it. There is no indication
from me that MODERN HEBREW is pure. The language in the state that it
is in is not the language that will be restored. I am teaching on a
subject that I believe is essential in understanding the text in our modern
Bibles. I am not alone in this view. There are myriads of books in the
marketplace that teach dozens of biblical subjects that I am sure you do
not agree with their position."
Of course Modern Hebrew is not the same as
Biblical Hebrew, Brad. Hebrew was one of the languages created at Babel. And
Biblical Hebrew, which is mixed with Aramaic, cannot be considered any more pure than any other
language. That's why Paul wrote not to forbid the use of various
languages, and one was not better for declaring the things of God, over another.
It was Biblical truth and the Gospel of Jesus Christ that was of importance, and
having a right relationship with Christ.
Quite frankly, Brad, unless I decide to do an
in-depth study on your complete teachings, I would not take the time to
listen to your tapes. Believe me when I say, I have read your website and have done
other research on you. That is enough information for me. You use kabbalist
gematria for teaching doctrine, hence you are a kabbalist and that is of the
occult. You also teach from the Talmud, for example, as is found in your article, Wildbranch Teaching of the Week: The Design of Scripture 70, 100, 120:
"....In Zohar B'reshith 36, [kabbalah]
it is taught that there are 70 facets to the Torah. In Talmud Sotah 32a,....Midrash..."
The writers of the Zohar [kabbalah] and Talmud rejected
Jesus Christ. That means interpretation on Scripture is different than with
those who Believe Christ is Messiah. That means that the very things that I
write against, is what you teach and are asking me and others to be interested
in and even embrace. A little leaven, Brad.
Further, I am simply not interested in endless
speculation on things that cannot and will not be known until after all is
complete according to God's purposes. While I am sure your deviation into these
things is also done by many others, it is not substantiated to Biblical truth,
and in my honest opinion, appears to merely provide those so inclined with a job and
very often leads to a
donation based income.
Paul warned about foolish questions and contentions,
and things not rooted in sound doctrine.
Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
10 A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
That said, on some of the things that you are
inaccurate on, that can be proven, they have been and will be addressed.
B: "In the teaching series I do not denegrate
the Greek. God knew that the Hebrew would be translated into the
common tongues. But any linguist will tell you that anytime you translate
from one language to another, you lose, to a greater or lesser degree,
some of the needed background and force of the original words."
You have no proof that the New Testament was originally written
in Hebrew or Aramaic for that matter. This is entirely an assumption, is extra biblical and cannot be proven. Therefore not valid for basing sound doctrine on. Greek in fact is being translated into other tongues including Hebrew, as that is the basis of the New Testament. Therefore, using your logic, one could then speculate that Greek could be the pure or heavenly language, since it is being used to proclaim the "Good News of Jesus Christ."
B: "I would like to know what your
credentials are in evaluating languages and tearing down other ministries? Are
all those who disagree with your cookie-cutter theology told that they
lack the knowledge of the scriptures? At least give me one well
thought out rebuttal to anything I have taught. I will be more than happy to
produce excerpts from the opinions of many gifted language teachers
concerning the source of the Mother Tongue."
Mother tongue...interesting choice of words
to describe a language created by One who is known as "He." I have
heard the term "mother" used also by some of your associates, when
they are discussing their kabbalist views
of the Holy Spirit as being female, referring to the Holy Spirit as "the
mother spirit." Since you embrace and teach kabbalist doctrine, are we to
assume that you also agree with these teachings?
My credentials are not an issue, as I haven't claimed to have any.
Isn't the issue really, what are your credentials?
Because quite frankly, you are the one who claims to have them, and the special knowledge and special teaching that only you can give.
I smiled over the issue of the credentials,
Brad. That is precisely why I have the website. To be a Berean and check
the credentials and legitimacy of people who set themselves up as leadership. I am
merely a servant of Jesus Christ, who researches and tries to find the facts
based on what people say, teach and do. I weigh those things to the Word of God--as
all are called to do. I share what I find. I claim no other credentials.
1 Corinthians 1:4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;
5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;
6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
My credentials as a Berean are God given. Just
as every Believer is called to that calling. That is to try the spirits, test
what people, particularly in leadership teach to be Biblical truth--and see if the Scriptures
actually say that, and discern between good and evil.
1 Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
What people like yourself do when they say, "How dare
you?!!"--they have put men on a pedestal. I say, how dare we not put all that
we embrace or listen to, to the test of sound doctrine found in the Word of God.
If we err or others err, we need to be shown so as not to cause others to fall.
A man of God welcomes that.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
The Apostle Paul
B: "Lastly, I also take issue with your
evaluation of my presentation of Rav Sha'ul. I have done my homework when it
comes to my favorite biblical writer, Paul. I suggest that you do the
same. I combine serious teaching concerning God's instructions (Torah)
along with the typical light-hearted view of the world that the
Yehudim have had from the [b]eginning. This presentation is done in
the same manner that Dean Jones did with John the Apostle some 20 or more
years ago. Ask those who have seen the presentation. Those who have
seen Paul live are moved by his dedication to the Messiah and his
resurrection. They see the human compassionate side of Paul and his love
for the Word of God. "
As shown in your promotion of the Apostle Paul
show: [bolding and red added]
"In 1993, after spending several years
heading back to my Hebrew roots, I began to pray about a method in which I
could express this fundamental theological shift to those whom I had been
teaching for many years. ...about all the misconceptions and erroneous
teachings concerning the most prolific writer of the New Covenant. It was the
result of those short conversations that the idea of becoming Rav Sha'ul
himself was conceived. To help reverse the modern Christian view of Paul, I
would have Paul defend himself, and so Paul the Apostle was brought back into
history. It was also a convenient alter ego to teach the truth of our heritage
and blame the fallout on someone else!
....Rav Sha'ul is a dramatic presentation of
Paul the Apostle as if he were alive today. ...He uses his natural Jewish
humor and world view to explain to all who will listen what he did say and
what he did not say. Paul combines his own writings, song, and humor to
validate his reputation..." About Paul the Apostle http://www.wildbranch.org/About/ravsha'ul.htm
Lets take this one step at a time. You don't
like what I said about you and the Apostle Paul show. This is what I said in the
"Brad Scott dresses up on costume and pretends
to be the Apostle Paul and in essence, rewrites Scripture by putting his meaning
and words forward as what Paul said and meant. Reading comments and reviews of
his presentation, brings to mind that a mockery is being made of a man who God
called to such a specific task as to be one of the people we are told is to be
an example to follow in living for Christ. He suffered, was mocked, ridiculed
and martyred by those who hated Christ. God says we are to give those who labor
among us double honor. Making a mockery of a man who wrote 14 books of the New
Testament is not my idea of obedience nor understanding the Scriptures. Nor do I
believe that Brad Scott can rightly divide the Word of God with his involvement
in the things he is involved in, especially with his lack of knowledge of
language of the Scriptures."
You said in the Apostle Paul page,
"so Paul the Apostle was brought back into
history. It was also a convenient alter ego to teach the truth of our heritage
and blame the fallout on someone else!..."
You also said, "He uses his natural Jewish
humor and world view to explain to all who will listen what he did say and
what he did not say." and "typical light-hearted view of the world that the
Yehudim have had from the [b]eginning."
humor" "typical light-hearted view", Brad? What
ridiculous and racist statements to make about Jews. That's like saying all black people have rhythm, or all latin people
are excellent dancers.
Perhaps that 'natural
Jewish humor' and 'natural light hearted view of the
world' could be shown in a "Paul" talk about
the horrors of the holocaust.
Personally, I've never seen
a Jewish person or any other in that wickedness, speak of it in a light-hearted manner.
Certainly listening to Prisoner
88, Sygmund Sobolewski, at a banquet for him, there was no
'light-hearted" view of that whatsoever. Not with him or
In case you are wondering, Brad, he was in
Auschwitz four and a half years. No, he wasn't Jewish, he was
Polish, but spent the time watching Jewish people go to their
death or torture. And my husband and I and many in the crowd
wept through the presentation. He speaks on behalf of the Jews
that died, because he was forced to "work" in the
crematorium, in between enduring torture and abuse himself.
He carries guilt about not being of the race and religion the
Nazi's chose to try to annihilate. The heart rending finale of that
night was when another 'survivor' got up with him, and they
shared a song they used to sing while in that horror, the Polish national
anthem. Quite frankly, it didn't matter that we could not
understand the words. The tears streaming down their faces was
Or perhaps you'd like to
hear the 'light- hearted' and 'natural Jewish humor' of
another Jewish survivor, who with his entire family and many
other Jews, were marched to a mass grave, and for the grace of
God, when the rest of his
family and many others were shot, he and his brother fell under some
escaped and with his brother, evaded capture. That was
recounted to us and our daughter in our local restaurant, as
we had coffee with him and his wife. And you know, the
understandable hurt, anger and bitterness of this man, seemed
to skew his 'natural Jewish humor' in the
retelling of his 'light-hearted world view.'
After reading how people laugh until they cry
over your presentation, I find those statements above, not only offensive but contrary to what we
do actually know about Paul. You have put your words, your interpretation
of who you believe Paul was, into your teachings and call it words he spoke. He
was not a comedian. He was endowed with great power and giftings of the Holy Spirit
and did miracles far above what the other Apostles were known for. He wasn't
preaching and teaching for the entertainment value.
Acts 20:22 And now, behold, I go bound in the spirit unto Jerusalem,
not knowing the things that shall befall me there:
23 Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me.
24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Nowhere, in any of his
letters, do we see a comedian or someone less than focused on his God-given
mission. He took it very seriously.
Titus 1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:
2 That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience...6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
7 In all things showing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine showing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
Ephesians 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
4 Neither <kai> filthiness <aischrotes>, nor <kai> foolish talking <morologia>, nor <e> jesting <eutrapelia>, which <ho> are <aneko> not <ou> convenient <aneko>: but <alla> rather <mallon> giving of thanks <eucharistia>.
foolish talking <morologia>3473. mwrologia
from a compound of 3474 and 3004; silly talk, i.e. buffoonery:--foolish talking. [Strong's]
jesting <eutrapelia>, 2160. eutrapelia eutrapelia, yoo-trap-el-ee'-ah
from a compound of 2095 and a derivative of the base of 5157 (meaning well-turned, i.e. ready at repartee, jocose); witticism, i.e. (in a vulgar sense) ribaldry:--jesting. [Strong's]
No, this does not mean one cannot have fun and
a merry heart. But when dealing with the Word of God and the example put of
these men, which were made examples to follow in living for Jesus Christ, you
have no authority or right to change what comes through the Scriptures as to who
they are and what they were like.
You said, "so Paul the Apostle was brought back into
Paul wasn't missing Brad. Nor was his character that we need
to be aware of. It is shown by the Word of God what he and the
like. Not by you claiming to be the Apostle Paul.
2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
The Apostle Peter was no less serious when he
1Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
What is amusing about his persecutions,
stonings, beatings, torture and eventual martyrdom? Those are all part of who
Paul was. I see no evidence of his "natural Jewish humor" in the writings
in the New Testament. Rather, I see a man called by God, fully and completely
focused on obedience to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, on winning the lost to Jesus
Christ and edifying the brethren.
Acts 20:35 I have showed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
36 And when he had thus spoken, he kneeled down, and prayed with them all.
37 And they all wept sore, and fell on Paul's neck, and kissed him,
38 Sorrowing most of all for the words which he spake, that they should see his face no more. And they accompanied him unto the ship.
Brad you are not the Apostle Paul, nor
do you know him above what is shown in the Word of God. To say otherwise is
presumptuous and ego driven. May I ask, in your humorous presentation of say, 2
Timothy, do you bring in the humor of Paul's conditions as shown in 4:14
"Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil"?
I can't help but wonder, Brad, when you clown your way through your,
what some describe as a hilarious presentation, and what is called on your own
website, "this humorous and heartfelt teaching from the Apostle himself,"
how you justify those aspects of the Scriptures.
Acts 20:27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one
night and day with tears.
Do you work humor into Paul's teachings, via
the various letters, while he is under house arrest? in chains? in prison?
Because that's when many of the Letters and teachings were written.
Do you suppose he clowned around about the
very things he was called to proclaim, not knowing for sure if that day would be
his last? As shown, he said, "not knowing the things that shall befall me
....the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me."
He endured hardship, famine, cold and great physical duress and you
are concerned about showing him as a quaint Jewish rabbi who had a great sense
I stand by my statements in the letter. You want to "blame the
fallout" of your teachings about the Apostle Paul and the Word of God on
Isn't that rather convenient, with one who is redefining Scripture with
extra-Biblical and Christ rejecting resources. If you change
the words and meaning to be what gematria and the occult would
have us believe, or based on your belief bias, they are no
longer what we are to remember or learn from. Have you forgotten that the
Scriptures say this about the Apostles?
Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Ephesians 3:5 Which in
other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is
now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the
2 Peter 3:1 This second
epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir
up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2 That
ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by
the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles
of the Lord and Saviour:
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before
of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
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: Torah Observant Gentile & Under the Law
2: Pure Language & Sacred Name
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