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An Open Response to Brad Scott

 of  Wildbranch.org

 

Part 4: 

Torah Observant Gentile & Under the Law

 

B= Brad, and in quotes.

B: "It is my opnion, an opinion expressed in much more detail in our teaching series, that Paul did not teach the cessation of God's instructions for man to live, and that truth is portrayed in the presentation of Paul. "

It's interesting that for someone who looks to the whole 66 books of the Bible, to be constantly viewed as someone not holding to the truth in them. Opinion really isn't an option on some issues. Rather, It is truth, or it is not. 

Brad, was the Apostle Paul Torah Observant?

Paul was a Pharisee, and therefore was well versed in the letter of the Law. Let us examine the actions of Paul after his acceptance of Jesus, and if he felt that non-Jews were obliged to follow it:

Tithing:
Paul taught about giving according to the heart, and not according to the law, and that it was for the saints rather than for the priests, something that today's church needs to gain understanding in: 

From the Hebrew Scriptures or TaNaKh [OT] on tithing: 

Numbers 18:26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.

Nehemiah 10:37 And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.

Compared to what Paul taught.

1 Corinthians 16:1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

For more on Tithing and Giving please see the series : Is Tithing Scriptural for New Covenant Believers? Under the Law or Led by the Spirit : Introduction

Circumcision: Leviticus 12:3 And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

Paul taught that believers need not be circumcised to be acceptable, but the Jews could according to the custom:

1 Corinthians 7 :18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Galatians 2:1 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain. 3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised: 4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: 5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

Paul circumcised Timothy, "because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek." And his mother was a Jewess. [Acts 16:1-3] 

Not as under the Law but to make it easier to witness to the Jews.

Acts 16: Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:
2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium. 3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek. [also Acts 11:2-3, 10:28 ]

It was always about furtherance of the Gospel. That was Paul's focus. Winning souls to Jesus Christ. 

1 Corinthians 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

That was his example.

Romans 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died. 16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. 19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

In other words, even being Biblically 'kosher' was to be undertaken for the purpose of not being a stumbling block or offense to those who held to those things, such as clean and unclean. It was always for the edification of others in order to share Jesus Christ. See also: Romans 14:2-5; 1Timothy 4:1-6, Romans 15:1, 1Corinthians 9:22, 1Corinthians 10:25, Colossians 2:16

Passover/ feasts: Paul instructed that Jesus, our Passover Lamb, was sacrificed for us. Jesus had to be blameless according to God's law to be a pure sacrifice. The Pharisees accused Him many times of breaking the Law, while they continually transgressed it themselves. It was their errant interpretation which was based on their own opinions and tradition, not Scripture, as Jesus illustrated here:

Luke 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day.
15 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his ass from the stall, and lead him away to watering?
16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
17 And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.

Matthew 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

The Apostle Paul wrote:

1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

If you look at the Scriptures, you will find that on many occasions Paul did not go to Jerusalem where the Temple was located, which was the center of Jewish religion from Solomon's day until its destruction by the Romans in 70 C.E. This was the only place where sacrifices and certain other rituals of the Jewish religion could be performed, and where the sacrifices were performed every year for passover, which is one of the appointed feasts.  [Exodus 12:14, Leviticus 23:5-8, and Deuteronomy 16:1-8; Also see Deuteronomy 16:16]

There are passages recorded in Scripture that show that Paul did not go to Jerusalem on one occasion for a three year period [Gal 1:17-18, 21-22], and another being fourteen years. [Gal 2:1] Paul spent about 18 months in Corinth on his second journey. He spent over 2 years at Ephesus. There were also many other times he was known to be journeying to or in, other cities.

Meaning, that the Apostle Paul did not attend many of the feasts at the Temple during those years. 

 

Under the Law

You, and many others, teach concerning the observance of the "613" which even orthodox Jews acknowledge that only certain ones can be kept outside of Israel. By all appearances, many teach that we are under the law, so they can claim to be teachers of Torah. Therefore, according to the law, everyone must tithe to them, because they have appointed themselves as today's "priests" and "Levites." 

For example, Michael Rood claims to be living as a Torah Observant Levite, although he is not Jewish, nor of the Levitical lineage. In the article, Michael Rood: WAY Colleagues, Occult Calendars & False Prophecies, it was shown that Michael also believes he can act as a Levite Priest. 

Norman Willis, while in Israel in October 2001, related that Michael Rood and his associate Joshua Cohen, bribed a gatekeeper, to enter a sacred site with him.  According to Mr. Willis, they donned Levitical Priest garments and engaged in a ceremony. Willis wrote:

"...I knew that I could probably go there if I were to take off my kippa and tassels (techelet), but I had resolved not to change my appearance for the sake of men. Therefore it occurred to me that I would not be able to go to the Pool of Shiloam on this visit.

... the Last Great Day of the Feast (karaite reckoning), I was coming out of the architectural dig to the south of the Western Wall plaza, .... up walked Michael Rood and ... Joshua. Michael asked me what I was doing, and I told him that I had been instructed to wait for orders. He said, "How are these for orders: Come with us to the Pool of Shiloam."

Michael had me remove my kippa and tassels ... and we proceeded to the Pool. We had to pay the Palestinian gatekeeper to unlock the gate, and then we all bathed (mikvah'ed) in the Pool, whereupon Michael and Joshua donned the priesthood garments, and performed a ritual ceremony ...."

Rood, Willis, and many others are teaching that tithing needs to be directed to them, as God's priesthood or Torah teachers. James Trimm declared in his posted "THE TITHE OF YHWH":

"....These passages point to a general Torah principle by which YHWH provides Torah teachers through the tithes of his people and by which YHWH's Torah teachers are supported by the tithes of those who benefit from their teaching.

If you are Jewish, reside in the Land of Israel and harvest produce from the Land then you are required by the Torah to pay the Mosaic tithe as described above to Levite Torah teachers. 

If you are not Jewish or do not raise produce in the Land of Israel then you should follow the Torah principle of supporting your Torah teachers through YHWH's tithe...." 

[Nazarene-Judaism Nazarene Judaism Forum; Message 6255; From:  James Trimm <jstrimm@n...>  Date:  Tue Mar 4, 2003  5:03 am ; Subject:  THE TITHE OF YHWH > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nazarene-Judaism/message/6255]

Are we to assume then, that anyone claiming to be Messianic, Nazarene or Hebraic Roots leadership, who is teaching Torah or claiming to be Torah Observant, should be viewed the ones to now receive the tithes commanded in the Torah? 

Does that also include you, Brad, as you have stated, "Then, it is about time that we put life to the seed of the Holy One that dwells within us. Crutches and all, I am ready to lead."?  Back in the Saddle Again, http://www.wildbranch.org/Articles/back.htm

Incidentally, the 'seed of the Holy One', isn't lacking "life."

You suggest in your teachings that the apostle Paul is simply misunderstood when he stated:

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

If one reviews the 613 Mitzvot [commandments], upon initial examination, it is plain to see that many of the laws can not be kept by Jews living outside of Israel, or even in Israel, because there is currently no Temple. There has been discussion on this, and some have stated that less than 300 of the 613 can be kept by Jews in diaspora. Practicing Jews will tell you that the 613 are not for the non-Jews to observe. 

Galatians 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

That means that if you wish to live according to the "613", you cannot pick and choose, you have to uphold all of those laws. Now, as stated above, less than 300 can even be considered for those outside of Israel. Since to be Torah Observant, while also under grace, does not allow one to pick and choose which "laws" one adheres to, and which you call as you do, the instructions to be followed, including all dietary laws, and so on. 

Let's take a look at some of the required issues, that you say you adhere to. The question is, how Torah Observant are you?

Brad, on the issue of lying to others and other basics, that Torah Observant leadership make claim to be following: 

Leviticus 19: 11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another. 13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.
15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

On the issue of false prophets, meaning someone who claims to speak a prophecy on behalf of God, knowing it must be 100% accurate. That would then include some of your associates in the category of Biblically and "law" defined, false prophet. What are the requirements for someone who is Torah Observant, to fully obey the law in this matter? Deuteronomy 13, 18.

How about the issue of adultery and fornication, which again, would involve people claiming to be Torah Observant, including leadership, and moving in the circles you move in? What is to be done if one is to be Torah Observant?

Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

How about your obedience in teaching the "law" on a son that is rebellious and doesn't obey or respect his parents? Deuteronomy 21:

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Leviticus 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

The Apostle Paul, who you say you emulate, stated: 

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

The Apostles James and John said this:

James 2:9 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 

1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

And in point of fact, the apostles dealt with this issue specifically:

Acts15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:...24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:...
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

You also state separately in your Doctrinal statement, "that salvation is by grace through faith, and that only by the shedding of innocent blood is there remission of sins." Wildbranch Doctrinal Statement http://www.wildbranch.org/About/belief.htm  

But you do not say whose or what innocent blood was shed, or if it is something that needs to be done through animal sacrifice, as was the teaching prior to Christ, who died once and for all. Meaning, many, including kabbalists, are denying the blood atonement in favor of recurring animal sacrifice and works, and desiring to be Torah Observant. 

Hebrew 10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all....16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

The Apostle Paul wrote this, concerning changing from the doctrine that he and the other apostles were given by direct revelation from God, which is given to us in the form of the New Testament:

1Timothy 1:3 "....that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine, 4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. 5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: 6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; 7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm."

You have stated in your Doctrinal Statement, Brad, that, "the Brit Chadashah is Yahshua's interpretation of the Tenakh (Old Testament)." Wildbranch Doctrinal Statement http://www.wildbranch.org/About/belief.htm

The New Testament is merely "Yahshuah's interpretation of the Tenakh", Brad? Let's make sure we are understanding. You believe that what Jesus spoke was merely an "interpretation" of the Old Testament? 

So when He said, " A New Commandment I give unto you", it was based on what? And when four books of the New Testament, excluding excerpts in the other books and also Revelation, were the ones that record our Lord's words while He walked the earth, what is in the rest of the Bible? 

Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 

Jesus fulfilled the Scriptures, Brad. They were about Him. For example:

Luke 4: 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. .....24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.   

Matthew 26:56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.

He was/is The Word, Brad. He was not an agent of God.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men....14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Because Jesus fulfilled the Scriptures, being under the "law", judgment and retribution to breaking it, are no longer physically or spiritually valid for those who know Him. We see a presentation of those issues for living and obedience, that are now and have always been, relevant to Believers, but in the New Testament. For example, on lying and stealing: 

Ephesians 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 

 

Lost Root?

You also teach that the church has "lost its roots for the last 2000 years" and needs to get grafted "back" into the "olive tree", which according to you and others, is Judaism. I am stymied about what Bible you and others have been reading, and where you get your information.

I have addressed this in the PK, MJAA, UMJC & Toward Jerusalem Council II article. But we can discuss the issue here as well.

Romans 11 speaks of the Root, which is Jesus Christ, and the natural and grafted in branches. It warns of being caught up in pride, thinking that because one is of Christ, and many Jewish people were cut off because of rejection of Jesus Christ, that made that grafted in branch better or more important than the other branch. 

 

Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

It works both ways. Pride is not to be found in any of God's people, which is why the warning of God having not spared those Jews who were 'natural branches.' We are saved by grace because of His love for us. All Jews and non-Jews have to accept Jesus as Messiah, or they are not part of the 'tree.' Our focus is to be Jesus Christ, giving Him the honor and the glory and the preeminence. The firstfruit and root is Christ.

Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Jesus said very clearly, 

John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Paul wrote: 

Colossians 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

The Jewish people were given a great honor to have been given "the oracles of God." They were also privileged to have had communion with God as His chosen people. The documentation of their struggles, obedience and disobedience is recorded to be appreciated and learned from. They were also privileged to have had prophecies throughout time, that revealed the coming of the Messiah which culminated in the truth of Jesus Christ, who is God come in the flesh. All those who have accepted Him are part of the Body of Christ, regardless of heritage, because Almighty God declared it. Those who reject Him, struggle with the concept of who He is. 

Matthew 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. 45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

The focus is to be solely Jesus Christ and obedience to Him where He has the preeminence.

Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. 15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

1 Peter 4:10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. 11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

B: "If you took the time to know me you would see that I am probably the most teachable person in Dodge.If I am shown that something I have taught is in error, I will be the first person to publically acknowledge such an error. I challenge you to do the same. How dare you presume to know who I am or even what I teach. I once again request your retraction of comments you have made about me and our ministry. "

We will certainly find out if you are a man of your word, Brad as a Believer, how dare I not know who you are and what you teach.

 1 Thessalonians 5:12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;
13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men. 15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men....

21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

You very specifically asked me for rebuttal and discussion on your teachings in this email. I have fulfilled that in these articles. There is nothing to retract. You don't have to like what I have said, or agree with my opinion and analysis, but it is what I think in response to your request and the issues discussed. 

How dare I evaluate or question you, Brad? I read your teachings and weighed them to the Word of God. I researched public information on you--that you yourself put out. As said previously. How dare we not, put leadership and their teachings to the test of the Word of God! 

I would rather be criticized by you, James Trimm, Tom Mitchell, Moshe Koniuchowsky, and a host of others, than stand before God and have to answer to Him that I did not test the spirits, and sound the trumpet as commanded in scripture. As for whether you like what I say, reject it, hate or resent me, it is of no consequence to me. 

1 Peter 4:12-14,16

"Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified... Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."

You are being shown by how you behave when you feel you are unjustly evaluated and in your eyes, persecuted. The question always becomes, how Biblically obedient are you really?

B: "We are teaching the same grace and forgiveness of our precious Messiah that I assume you advocate. The biggest difference is that we do not divide or separate  the Bible into Jewish things and Christian things. I fully stand behind my knowledge of the culture, language and people of the scriptures. I have always been very upfront about my background and credentials.I have nothing to hide. You can request such info any time you wish. "

It is very clear that we are not believing the same things. Based on the above statements it should be no problem to answer the questions, for those who are interested, clearly and concisely in regards to your background and credentials...and teachings.

B: "Because I am critical of traditional spoon-fed doctrines of the dominant religion of this great country of ours, does not give you license to attack me personally. This is a tactic used too many times by political liberalism when they have no substantive answer to political conservatives."

I would make a suggestion Brad. I recommend that you read my whole website so you actually know what I believe, and particularly, what I believe regarding the religion of politics. Then you might be qualified to make a statement about what I believe about particular issues. At this point, you are making all manner of uninformed and unsubstantiated claims. I do not base my views in the context of a country. I prefer viewing such things in light of  Hebrews 11:16, Hebrews 12:22, and Hebrews 13:13-14. 

 

Scriptural Warnings

B: "In closing I would dare to remind you that there is no definitve warning in the scriptures about those in the last days who will go overboard in their defense of the entire written Word of God. "

I prefer to think that these warnings are very clear.

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

B: "There is no prophetic outcry to flee from those who attempt to restore the beautiful language that God chose to reveal nearly 4/5ths of His word."

If that was all you promoted Brad, you would merely be known as one who was trying to outlaw languages in favor of one unifying language, that being, your version of Hebrew. 

2 Timothy 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

We are warned to flee doctrine that is not sound. We are told to look to the Word of God for our sound doctrine, hence it is not hidden, has not been missing nor needs restoring. 

It is there for all Believers to understand, as it is the Holy Spirit who gives us understanding, regardless of what language we are fluent in. Things which are not hidden to Believers incidentally. That concept also eliminates the dependence on people like yourself to interpret things for us. The Apostle Paul was also clear on this issue, that the things they proclaimed were the things that had been hidden, but, were now out in the open for those who believe.

1 Corinthians 2:4-8 and "9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

In fact, the Apostle John said this:

1 John 2: 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

We are warned about people who claim to be Jews and who are not, and wolves in sheep's clothing, men crept in unawares and much more. We are told not to turn to fables, and we are not to view race and genealogy as a status symbol for knowing God or understanding the Scriptures. The Apostle Paul, whom you say you emulate, spoke of these very things many times. As did the other Apostles and as did Jesus.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him
.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

1 Timothy 1:...that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine, 4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

We are also warned about adding to or taking away from the Word of God. 

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

B: "But the scriptures are replete with warnings that in the latter days people would forsake His laws, profane His sabbaths, replace His feasts, pollute His name and forsake His ways. Judgment is indeed beginning in the House of God. I am one big fan of apologetic ministries. I consider Dr. Walter Martin a mentor. But Dr. Martin did his homework before he launched an attack on someones credibility. I once again ask for a response."

The Scriptures are clear:

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? ... 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. 24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen.

Brad, your comments are inaccurate with regard to what I know or don't know about you, your associates, your background, and your teachings. As shown in this response. Simply put, in most of my articles I have not included all information that I have compiled. Nor have I written about all the topics or individuals that I have researched. 

Since I have not covered all your beliefs and associations, if you would like me to do further and more in-depth documentation and analysis, I will add that project to my already very long list of things to do. 

If you are not pleased with the outcome of this response, to your request for rebuttal and discussion about you and your ministry, I would suggest applying Scripture to the issues. 

2 Timothy 3:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will. 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 

In closing Brad, Thank you very much for asking me to discuss and refute your various statements and teachings. I sincerely hope this has been helpful to you. The Apostle Peter tells us how to "make it." It has nothing to do with kabbalah, gematria, elevation of men, or heritage, special language or hidden knowledge given to a select few.

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

 

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