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Many are being faced with a new challenge of no longer attending a church, or are currently seeking one that is Biblically sound. In the meantime, it is important to dig and study God's Word. For some who are used to a weekly service, it is a bit disconcerting to study on one's own. Many search for resources and helps, especially on the internet and find it can be somewhat likened to this. Shark

We need to remember that God promised if we seek Him we will find Him and He will give the wisdom and understanding we need.


Matthew 7:7-9 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9. Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?

James 1:3-7 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. 4. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. 5. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. 6. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.


We have the promise that the Holy Spirit will teach us and give us understanding. It is about depending on Him not man's wisdom.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Having said that, many are unsure what resources are available that will actually be of help. It's important to keep in mind that many resources have a denominational or other purpose or bias behind them. Commentaries and such will carry those biases etc. So, if using any, double check them against other sources and most importantly against the Scriptures themselves.

Now for some resources. I used to use Power Bible CD, and Quick Verse (which was a free download), as I needed something to be able to copy/paste verses into my articles. I had discovered that I kept making mistakes when typing them -how sad is that. Blush With Power Bible I also purchased some of the versions for comparison purposes.

http://www.powerbible.com/

I then got onto E-sword, which is what I now use for online work, and quite often simply to read. It is a free download, that has both free downloadable bibles, dictionaries, commentaries, etc. and purchase bibles etc. Rick Meyers has the site and accepts donations but does not charge for the program.

http://www.e-sword.net/

With esword, I use KJV, KJV + (with Strong's numbers); --and have some of the free other versions for comparison--rarely used except when I do an article concerning a version, such as the Bible charts.

For interlinears there is IHOT -Hebrew Old Testament Interlinear
IGNT +--Greek New testament Interlinear

You can get a lot of commentaries and dictionaries, maps, and such. I don't tend to use them much, UNLESS I am researching something in particular historically or some other reason. Th_smiley_work

I also use KJConcordance
KJDictionary
Strong's Concordance
BDB--Brown-Driver-Brigg's Hebrew Definitions
Thayer- Thayer's Greek Definitions
TSK-Treasurey of Scriptural Knowledge which provides some cross references

BTW I use KJV for the practicality of it on my website--there is no copyright to worry about prohibiting use of it extensively. I also prefer it and feel it is the best english Bible translation.

In esword, there is a section where you can set up a bible study reading schedule, as well as Study Notes and Topic notes you can add to.

Well that's a start. How about the rest of you?
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14547 Whoa the horses. Sign0101 The purpose of this thread was to give ideas of useful resources for studying the Bible. Quite frankly commentaries are the person's opinion of the Bible. Scolfield did not publish his opinion as a separate commentary as most do. It was included in the pages of the KJV and is presented as a reference Bible. For many his notes are elevated as Scripture or equal to or above Scripture-- because some content can be shown contradicts what the apostles were given to write, and is taken over their doctrine. Sign0138

Now either he received new revelation which overturned particular Scriptures, which all must then abide by as our 'Bible" or he has presented another gospel and another Jesus, because some of his presentation does not match Scriptures... Sign0082

Either way it needs to be addressed Scripturally and factually. Sign0156


So until proven what it is, I think this will go into a new thread. 5522

And keep the discussion without name calling please.Sign_respect1

Prove your opinion and beliefs with facts and Scripture--not opinion or wishful thinking. Is it sound doctrine?
Sign0092


New Thread in the Bible Versions and Translations >Scofield Reference Bible & Cyrus I Scofield > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=163
(02-12-2009 10:45 AM)Vic Wrote: [ -> ]14547 Whoa the horses. Sign0101 The purpose of this thread was to give ideas of useful resources for studying the Bible. Quite frankly commentaries are the person's opinion of the Bible. Scolfield did not publish his opinion as a separate commentary as most do. It was included in the pages of the KJV and is presented as a reference Bible. For many his notes are elevated as Scripture or equal to or above Scripture-- because some content can be shown contradicts what the apostles were given to write, and is taken over their doctrine. Sign0138

Now either he received new revelation which overturned particular Scriptures, which all must then abide by as our 'Bible" or he has presented another gospel and another Jesus, because some of his presentation does not match Scriptures... Sign0082

Either way it needs to be addressed Scripturally and factually. Sign0156


So until proven what it is, I think this will go into a new thread. 5522

And keep the discussion without name calling please.Sign_respect1

Prove your opinion and beliefs with facts and Scripture--not opinion or wishful thinking. Is it sound doctrine?
Sign0092


New Thread in the Bible Versions and Translations >Scofield Reference Bible & Cyrus I Scofield > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...162&page=1

Well the link you give does not work. Please, please, please show me a Scofield note that is dishonoring to Christ. Please show me a test, class notes, book page or anything to back up ya'lls claim that Chafer and Dallas Theological Seminary are erroneous in teaching. Gentleness and meekness in one's opinions do not make them correct. But you say you want the truth - however you do not say the truth when you just throw opinion statements out there as fact. You all accused Scofield of being untruthful, but I suspect you are parroting the opinion of one your teachers who is just as fallible as anyone else. Then you put up a defensive wall by accusing name calling (which was not done). Gossip is wrong in a seek God forum as much as in your back yard. My eyes and ears are open. Just stick to the facts and show me how Scofield "leads thousands astray" instead of giving me opinionated rhetoric. It was you that brought the charges, it is your (your writers) burden of proof. Do not treat Scofield notes like they are treacherous ground. The least expensive Old Scofield Bible is around 10 bucks. We are all from Missouri - show us.

AND Nobody I know of (ever) thinks the notes are inspired. That's just nonsense. Another unsubstantiated "red flag" that has no basis in truth. Instead you shuffle me to the door. How compassionate.

PS Everyone should use commentaries. Commentaries give useful insight many times to the Greek and Hebrew and culture of the time. The pastor you listen to on Sunday, his sermon is a commentary on a passage. A commentary that disagrees with your position would make good reading because it will either strengthen your beliefs as you study further or discern error in your pretexts. I suspect this is falling on deaf ears, however.
(02-14-2009 01:09 PM)Artskoe Wrote: [ -> ]New Thread in the Bible Versions and Translations >Scofield Reference Bible & Cyrus I Scofield > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...162&page=1

Quote:Well the link you give does not work.

I changed the link in the previous post, and you can see it here:

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...162&page=1
(02-14-2009 01:09 PM)Artskoe Wrote: [ -> ]PS Everyone should use commentaries. Commentaries give useful insight many times to the Greek and Hebrew and culture of the time. The pastor you listen to on Sunday, his sermon is a commentary on a passage. A commentary that disagrees with your position would make good reading because it will either strengthen your beliefs as you study further or discern error in your pretexts. I suspect this is falling on deaf ears, however.

Commentaries are man's biased view of the Scriptures. We are told by Paul that to understand the Living Word of God, it takes spiritual discernment, not the wisdom of man. James tells us that a teacher will be judged more severely. Jesus told us to call no man teacher. Jeremiah states that man who trusts in man is cursed.

Reading the Word of God does not take brilliance or intelligence. It is a word to the regenerated born again spirit and heart of a man. A born again man has the mind of Christ. It's not hard to "get". Culture has nothing to do with God's Word. The Bible is timeless, cultureless, and "un-ethnic"; but stands forever.

The problem, in my opinion, is that people are LAZY. They would rather read the words written by others, than to spend time reading the Bible for themselves, praying for understanding and wisdom, as God promised. Sometimes it takes awhile for God to give you understanding, but He is faithful. What I love most about His Word is the challenge and the inspiration to change, renew, edify, transform, instruct, correct, and discipline me. Every verse is life-giving for the spiritual man and through the word we can discern good and evil. His Word is Living - many times I read a verse that I have read a 1000 times before, I see it in a new way to apply it to my life. I think it's sad that people rely on man's interpretations, rather than allowing God to show, through His Spirit, His truth.

After years of reading man's words and following false teachings I am seriously not inclined to dumpster dive to find "truth". Somehow, the thought that God would coat his truth in the slime at the bottom definitely does not represent God in any way shape or form.
Swoon

Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;
Joh 8:32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Quote:.... Nobody I know of (ever) thinks the notes are inspired. That's just nonsense. Another unsubstantiated "red flag" that has no basis in truth. Instead you shuffle me to the door. How compassionate.

PS Everyone should use commentaries. Commentaries give useful insight many times to the Greek and Hebrew and culture of the time. .... I suspect this is falling on deaf ears, however."

As an aside Artskoe, re the idea "everyone should use commentaries". Just an observation, but since commentaries are someone's opinions, reading emails and forums provides the same exercise. You have given opinions, and have provided no proof of your statements. And you have ignored scriptures that evaluate a persons behaviors----which we are called to evaluate in order to test the fruit. Wonder what a commentary says about not applying the Scriptures for certain people/leaders, or making exceptions to the Scriptures for icons? Thinking2

Further, saying someone has a chip on their shoulder, is short of name calling, but we all know what it means. It's unnecessary. As far as "parroting" a teacher or whatever---wrong. You, however, seem to be upholding his bible based on what --use and following who--who recommended it to you---when you were in school....church....? 89

Incidentally--you err when you said "A commentary that disagrees with your position would make good reading because it will either strengthen your beliefs as you study further or discern error in your pretexts"

We learn to discern truth and error, good and evil by use of and study of the Scriptures--not commentaries. Nowhere does it say Scriptures "AND Commentaries". Unless you have a scripture that does in fact say to use commentaries?
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Hebrews 5:12-14 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Peter 1:19-21 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


Scofield is closed as a topic on this thread 6781 and will be discussed under the Bibles and Translations thread. 7143

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...162&page=1
Can anyone recommend a good concordance? I know Strong's seems to be poular. There are some different versions available though. Does anyone have a preference or suggestion (i.e. New Strong's by Nelson, Strongest Strong's by Zondervan)? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
(08-13-2009 09:21 PM)Mark Wrote: [ -> ]Can anyone recommend a good concordance? I know Strong's seems to be poular. There are some different versions available though. Does anyone have a preference or suggestion (i.e. New Strong's by Nelson, Strongest Strong's by Zondervan)? Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

Personally, I like Thayers for the Greek and Brown/Driver/Briggs [BDB] for the Hebrew. I think the definitions are a bit more precise. And these two concordances are used by scholars and university language department heads. I think they available online as well.

The Strongest Strong's has some problems. One of them is the big change from using "Jehovah" for the YHWH to "yahweh" which is not even Hebrew. I think they have been influenced by the incorrect information that is being promoted out there in Christianity. I find that sad, if not down right heretical. It just shows that the Word of God is quickly being stifled and reworded to fit man's theology.
Sheep, the change to YHWH vs God or Jehovah is happening at a rapid rate. The last church I went to, I did not hear once anything from the NT, only the OT. Being curious I decided to test the waters during the after services bible-study, and stated that I was using a weekly parashot as a study guide, to which the leader of the group smiled and nodded with approval; I have not been back there since.

In PT the other night there were more than a few riding upon their high horse about the name of Jesus not being correct; imagine my lack of shock or surprise.
(08-14-2009 11:34 PM)grafted Wrote: [ -> ]Sheep, the change to YHWH vs God or Jehovah is happening at a rapid rate. The last church I went to, I did not hear once anything from the NT, only the OT. Being curious I decided to test the waters during the after services bible-study, and stated that I was using a weekly parashot as a study guide, to which the leader of the group smiled and nodded with approval; I have not been back there since.

In PT the other night there were more than a few riding upon their high horse about the name of Jesus not being correct; imagine my lack of shock or surprise.

YHWH is is the Hebrew text - we just don't know how to pronounce it or spell. The YHWH is not incorrect - it is proper and God given, however; man has opted to take the Name and run with it. Even in Judaism one is forbidden to refer to the YHWH directly, which is why they write it as G-d/L-rd or call Him Adonai, HaShem, or Elohiym - which has been adopted by Messianics as well. God is not His Name, but rather a title, so I am not sure why the Rabbinical decision to add the dash. The Jews do not ever use "yahweh", obviously because it is not Hebrew.

Many Messianics also say that Jesus is a pagan name, that He was given a Hebrew Name [Yeshua] and therefore no one called Him Jesus. Unfortunately, they are ignorant that Jesus can be etymologically traced back to Yeshua. The use of "yahshua" is also incorrect in Messianic circles - it's an impossible rendering of Yeshua and translationally means zilch.

But now we have derailed the thread Sign0101

Any more discussion on the Name issue we can take to these threads:


http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=3

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=73
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