(02-10-2009 10:01 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: [ -> ]t Is anyone familiar with or have information on the mikveh?
Did you have any specific questions regarding the use of
the mikveh in Judaism?
Quote:Hi Sheitlqueen! Welcome to the forum 
We have an introduction thread and we love for you to introduce yourself there and tell us a little about you
Thanks for the welcome; I'll make sure to go to the introduction
thread, not that there is much to tell about myself, LOL.
Quote:To answer your question, I mostly started the thread to get a little discussion going as Messianics seem to not be aware that Chrisitian baptism is not the mikveh, but use it the same way because it is Jewish 
A little confused-do you mean the baptism is used in the same way
as the mikveh, or that Messianics use the mikveh the same way
Jews do?
PS- love your forum name. I used to raise sheep.
Also, where is the intro thread? I seem unable to locate it.
(06-29-2009 12:27 PM)Vic Wrote: [ -> ]The introduce yourself is in the top section > Announcements > sub section > Introduce yourself > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=17 [/b] [/color]
Thanks, Vic, I'll head over there now.
(06-29-2009 02:19 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: [ -> ]Messianics get re-baptized doing a "mikveh" to prove that they are being more Jewish - usually in swimming pools and occasionally lakes or streams. They call it a mikveh because that is the Jewish word for getting dunked in water for purification [think how christian baptism is practiced]. They really believe this is doing a mikveh 
Oh, my.....not only is a pool not a kosher mikveh, getting "baptized" isn't
the purpose of a mikveh.....and it certainly doesn't make them " being
more Jewish". They actually believe that?
(06-29-2009 02:42 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: [ -> ]That's what happens when a movement tries teach people what Judaism is "really" about. Or worse yet, it's a system that wants to teach the Jews how to be Jewish[/b][/color] 
Can we say "chutzpah", LOL?
Quote: How important is the mikveh to you? Are there other uses for the mikveh other than for purification after niddah?
Since I am an old lady, the mikveh no longer applies to me...but yes
it is absolutely necessary to use it after being in a state of niddah.
They are also used before a wedding, for conversions, and some have
separate mikvaot for toiveling dishes and a very few select groups
have one for use of the preparation of a body for burial.
It is used amongst men too...some men go everyday, some
just before shabbas, others just before a holiday. In Jerusalem
one goes to the mikveh before ascending the Temple Mount.
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What I find interesting is that as much as the Messys think they are so Jewish, they don't seem to "get" that women are supposed to mikveh after niddah -
Yeah, that is pretty basic....I wonder if they don't know
or if they just choose to not do it because it isn't "convenient".
Quote:Also, questions are popping into my head - but according to Torah, the woman is supposed to remain separate from everyone during niddah - like not use the same seats, etc. Do you follow that specifically or do you follow Talmudic practice?
I'm no expert in Talmud law- I leave that to they guyz
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but during the state of niddah a husband and wife have no physical
contact at all. As far as seating, other than a mechitzah, I've never
seen anyone concerned that a niddah might have sat on a chair.
I heard one Messianic woman say that in her church the person in
a state of niddah sits on a pillow! I've never heard or seen that in
Judaism. She also said women in niddah state could not touch the
Torah...again we don't hold by that because there is the concept
that a Torah is holy and a niddah woman (or anything else) cannot defile it.
It seems Messianics seem to pick and choose what they practice,
and come up with practices that are totally alien to Judaism.
. Except I would add..totally alien to Christianity and Judaism. Would you do us a big favor--for the many english speaking readers, who don't understand the hebrew words, would you mind putting in an english equivalent? That would be super helpful. I know many messianics/hr think they got Hebrew down cold...but...most don't either. 