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Once in awhile a person just has to let loose on a pet peeve. Soapbox

Within the HR world, many followers adopt the habit of throwing in a Hebrew word or two or more in an otherwise english writing or dialogue. Gaah

Some use the excuse that they are using the correct name for Jesus, --which inicidentally is rarely the Hebrew Yeshua--they use YHWH or Torah, or some other words they have picked up from their 'scholars'. 17517

Often they don't even know they are using yiddish or some slang, when proclaiming they have acquired use of the 'holy language of Hebrew'. 17432

Every so often I receive emails from such individuals which combine english and hebrew in their attempts at setting me straight theologically or trying to berate me for researching or writing about the people they adore or view as leaders. 7863

So in a reflection of the habit of mixing languages, which makes no sense to those who do not speak their attempt at Hebrew fluency, I give you this to consider.


Ani lo meveenah lamah k'she vous écrivez à une expression anglaise le introduces hebreo, sabiendo que el language hablado y comprendido es el ingles? Paul said que preferia hablar cinco palabras que la gente entendieran en vez de muchas que no entenderian.

If you are having a bit of a problem understanding what I just asked, then you have come to the point of what I asked. And you have just experienced a true rendering of speaking or writing in tongues, with no apparent translation. Sign0176

Paul wrote:


1 Corinthians 14:18-21 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19. Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. 20. Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. 21. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.

It not only hinders to use languages that others do not necessarily understand, it goes against the Scriptures and shows disrespect to the intended audience. If you are english speaking and speaking/writing to an english audience/reader, it makes no sense to speak in a language not generally understood by the hearer.

There. Now I feel better, having shared this information. Coffeebath

P.S. Unless you are fluent in hebrew, spanish, french and english, you might have a bit of a problem with the question and thought I posed.
ANNI LO MAVINA IVRIT
ET JE NE PARLE FRANCAIS AUSSI
ANGLAIS IS EASY FOR ME
HABLAR ESPAGNOLE ET TROP DIDIFICILE POUR MOI MAAR N POGING WAGEN DURF IK WEL
ENCHANTEZ MES DAMES ET MESSIEURS

emje Wave
(03-18-2009 05:53 PM)Emjesown Wrote: [ -> ]ANNI LO MAVINA IVRIT
ET JE NE PARLE FRANCAIS AUSSI
ANGLAIS IS EASY FOR ME
HABLAR ESPAGNOLE ET TROP DIDIFICILE POUR MOI MAAR N POGING WAGEN DURF IK WEL
ENCHANTEZ MES DAMES ET MESSIEURS

emje Wave

14269 I just knew this would be a fun thread. Mrgreens

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Blush I forgot to post the translation of my first post.


Ani lo meveenah lamah k'she vous écrivez à une expression anglaise le introduces hebreo, sabiendo que el language hablado y comprendido es el ingles? Paul said que preferia hablar cinco palabras que la gente entendieran en vez de muchas que no entenderian.

Keep in mind that because of using the various languages it does not read correctly in english.

[I am wondering why when you write english-speaking person you include hebrew, knowing that the language spoken and understood is english? Paul said that he would rather speak five words that people understood than have people not comprehend what he was saying.

I should clarify that I do understand the commonly used Hebrew words used by many in HR. That isn't the issue.

The point is, either write completely in Hebrew if wanting to dialogue with a hebrew fluent audience or write in english to an english speaking audience. It is needless to write in several languages when dialoguing with someone.

Yeshua is Hebrew but Jesus is the English from the Greek... and we can see it is known in various forms throughout the world. Yet we know Him for who He is. For example:


Jesus >
Albanian> Jezusi
Filipino> Si Hesus
dutch> Jezus
finnish> Jeesus
italian> Gesù
hungarian> Jézus
romanian> Isus
turkish> İsa
ukrainian> Ісус


It's not about restoring His name to hebrew as some would suggest, as if He has lost His name, 89 or brandishing hebrew words to appear scholarly (it doesn't give that appearance, btw).

God created all languages and knows His name in all of them. No one language is better than another. He's interested in hearts, not the language one speaks. And He is interested in our growing in knowledge and grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and obedience to His Word, which english speaking people tend to read in english, and french speaking read in french and so on.


Mat 12:21 And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.

Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10. That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11. And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Romans 15:8-12 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: 9. And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. 10. And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. 11. And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. 12. And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.


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