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Quote:[grafted] Mark 9:19-29
Why was Jesus upset?
Interesting that the spirit involved had to be driven out by prayer, that simply commanding it to leave had no effect.

Mar 9:19 He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.
Mar 9:20 And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tare him; and he fell on the ground, and wallowed foaming.
Mar 9:21 And he asked his father, How long is it ago since this came unto him? And he said, Of a child.
Mar 9:22 And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
Mar 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
Mar 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
Mar 9:25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
Mar 9:26 And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead.
Mar 9:27 But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.
Mar 9:28 And when he was come into the house, his disciples asked him privately, Why could not we cast him out?
Mar 9:29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.

Mark 9 : 18 : "...and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not. He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you?"

Was Jesus upset because the disciples had not called on Him? Is this what Jesus was saying when he told them that the demon could only be expelled with prayer and fasting? Jesus knew their hearts - it seems that the disciples may have been trying to get rid of the demon in their own power and not Jesus' power.

(08-23-2009 06:31 AM)Mary Wrote: [ -> ]Mark 9 : 18 : "...and I spake to thy disciples that they should cast him out; and they could not. He answereth him, and saith, O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you?"

Was Jesus upset because the disciples had not called on Him? Is this what Jesus was saying when he told them that the demon could only be expelled with prayer and fasting? Jesus knew their hearts - it seems that the disciples may have been trying to get rid of the demon in their own power and not Jesus' power.

I agree. Because it's about allowing Christ to work through each of us. It almost seems like maybe they got caught up in trying, instead of trusting and believing where the power came from to cast out demons. By telling them it was by fasting and prayer---the focus was to be on seeking God's will and His purposes, with full dependence on Him to do whatever.Which they later learned completely.

Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Heb 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?