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I saw this word (name?) in another thread: http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=194

I have my own ideas about what it may mean, but according to the thread the admins definitely know what it means. Is it yet another "sacred name"?

(12-02-2009 06:32 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote: [ -> ]Eloheinu means our God.

Just thought I would add a little info

Eloheinu is actually part of the word for God in Hebrew - Elohim. By changing the ending it makes it "our God". As is most foreign languages, nouns are male, female, neutral, plural and singular depending on how they are spelled.

Hope that helps!!!

(12-02-2009 08:09 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2009 06:32 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote: [ -> ]Eloheinu means our God.

Just thought I would add a little info

Eloheinu is actually part of the word for God in Hebrew - Elohim. By changing the ending it makes it "our God". As is most foreign languages, nouns are male, female, neutral, plural and singular depending on how they are spelled.

Hope that helps!!!

Elohim comes from Elahh (pronounced allah) and im. Elahh simply means god. Allah means curse. Olah means burnt offering, sacrifice

(12-14-2009 12:38 PM)Rahab Wrote: [ -> ]Elohim comes from Elahh (pronounced allah) and im. Elahh simply means god. Allah means curse. Olah means burnt offering, sacrifice

There seems to be many differing opinions when it comes to the name of Allah and Elohim, but I think that it's pretty much a general consensus that although they have similar Semitic roots, Elah and Allah are not pronounced the same. One is "EL ah" and the other "AH lah". In Islam, Allah is considered as one of 99 *names* of their god - although there those outside of Islam that state "Allah" is not a name either. Hebraically, Elohim, is not a name but a *title*.

Etymologically, Allāh (ألله) is derived from a contraction of the Arabic words al- (the) and ʾilāh (deity, masculine form) — al-ilāh meaning "the god" or "the one true God".

I thought it would be interesting to present Thayer's etymological rundown of Elohim - because Elohim means a lot more than just "God" depending on context in the OT. I have seen Elohim spelled as Elohiym quite often to designate God as separate from the other occurrences of elohim as gods, angels, and judges.


H430
אלהים
'ĕlôhîym
BDB Definition:
1) (plural)
1a) rulers, judges
1b) divine ones
1c) angels
1d) gods
2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
2a) god, goddess
2b) godlike one
2c) works or special possessions of God
2d) the (true) God
2e) God
Part of Speech: noun masculine plural
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: plural of H433

H433
אלהּ / אלוהּ
'ĕlôahh
BDB Definition:
1) God
2) false god
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: probably prolonged (emphatically) from H410

H410
אל
'êl
BDB Definition:
1) god, god-like one, mighty one
1a) mighty men, men of rank, mighty heroes
1b) angels
1c) god, false god, (demons, imaginations)
1d) God, the one true God, Jehovah
2) mighty things in nature
3) strength, power
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: shortened from H352

H352
איל
'ayil
BDB Definition:
1) ram
1a) ram (as food)
1b) ram (as sacrifice)
1c) ram (skin dyed red, for tabernacle)
2) pillar, door post, jambs, pilaster
3) strong man, leader, chief
4) mighty tree, terebinth
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from the same as H193

H193
אוּל
'ûl
BDB Definition:
1) prominence
1a) body, belly (contemptuous)
1b) nobles, wealthy men
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to twist, i.e. (by implication) be strong

(12-14-2009 02:43 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote: [ -> ]
LXX related word(s)
G39 hagios
G946 bdelugma
G1203 despotes
G1497 eidolon
G2304 theios
G2316 theos
G2962 kurios

I wonder if that last word is the origin of "Kyrie", which I assumed was Latin since Catholics use it.

(12-14-2009 03:33 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2009 02:43 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote: [ -> ]
LXX related word(s)
G39 hagios
G946 bdelugma
G1203 despotes
G1497 eidolon
G2304 theios
G2316 theos
G2962 kurios

I wonder if that last word is the origin of "Kyrie", which I assumed was Latin since Catholics use it.

Kurios means Lord. Kyrie is also a Greek derivative of kurios. The Latin word for "Lord" is Dominus. I suspect there is probably quite a bit of Greek in Catholicism. The Catholic Prayer "Kyrie Eleison" is Greek for "Lord have mercy".

(12-14-2009 10:07 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2009 03:33 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2009 02:43 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote: [ -> ]
LXX related word(s)
G39 hagios
G946 bdelugma
G1203 despotes
G1497 eidolon
G2304 theios
G2316 theos
G2962 kurios

I wonder if that last word is the origin of "Kyrie", which I assumed was Latin since Catholics use it.

Kurios means Lord. Kyrie is also a Greek derivative of kurios. The Latin word for "Lord" is Dominus. I suspect there is probably quite a bit of Greek in Catholicism. The Catholic Prayer "Kyrie Eleison" is Greek for "Lord have mercy".

Props for translating that prayer (and showing me how the second word is spelled ). The band Mr. Mister wrote a popular rock song around it. Since upsilon apparently translates to both U and Y in English, I suppose my screenname would be Upsilon Upsilon Zeta Dermakephalos.

(12-02-2009 05:21 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote: [ -> ]I saw this word (name?) in another thread: http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=194

I have my own ideas about what it may mean, but according to the thread the admins definitely know what it means. Is it yet another "sacred name"?

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Elohaynu means Elohim shelanu. I mean, "Our God." Better yet, I recommend you to read my thread, "Why Elohim if God is Absolutely One?"
Ben