12-27-2008, 05:14 PM
(12-27-2008 03:18 PM)carl37 Wrote: [ -> ]I plainly asked what about the pastors that teach a pre-trib rapture. What about Chuck Smith date-setting in 1981. I received no reply on those.. These guys all teach a pre-trib rapture, some teach that commiting suicide will still allow you eternal life, Yahushua died on good friday and rose on easter sunday. So why not include some posts on these "holy guys"
I have posted on this and on this site, at least as regards the pre trib rapture. I completely reject the pre trib rapture, and I regard date setting as open defiance of the word of
God. As Jesus said that he was to come as thief in the night so that the man of the house (Satan) would not be able to stop him for not knowing the time of his coming, so i take it that the church can NEVER know when He is coming. Because if the Church knows then Satan knows. End of Story. So the church can never know. In other words Acts 1: 6-8 "It is not for you to know the times that father has set", applies to us. There is thus no warrant in the slightest for trying out that this was said for the Jews, as I have heard some say, for he was talking to his disciples, and so it applies to us. Yes, they are so desperate to have forbidden knowledge that they will twist scripture that badly, but the logic of the passage I referred to about the man of the house is irrefutable. Besides and even though they were jews to a man that Jesus spoke to at his ascension, they were the the church in embryo, and it applies to us
Go to http://www.jewsonfirst.com and see video clips of what an unctuous and destructive fool Hagee is.
Those who set dates are in OPEN DEFIANCE of the word of God. They are heretrics, idolators - for their curiosity is ungodly and pushed to an idolatrous extent, and when their dates do not come to pass, as they never have, the Holy Name is blasphemed among the nations because of them.
Not only that but they do not take criticism. I once emailed Hal Lindsey about a contradiction in his thought. He huffed and puffed, asserted that he had been studying the matter for 50 years, (as if that were in the slightest bit relevant) and then proceeded to twist the scriptures i was referring to. It was not gracious, it was not even polite.
I can discuss the contradiction i found if you are interested.
BTW is it ridicule to seriously hold that Messianic is in error? If exposing error is ridicule am I to be denied here as ridiculing Hagee and co?