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(11-18-2010 10:22 AM)Lance Wrote: [ -> ]You can continue on being deceived, and/or deceiving, but the truth will come out. What I wrote about is not 'SciFi', and its certainly not 'fantasy' as you claim! The first 'beast' is not a human being! There is also 'another beast', and 'it' is not human either!

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"I don't think you are really paying attention to the Scriptures as much as you are all bunched up over a whole lot of sci-fi. All this "technology" reminds me of the movies about mind control, robots, and zombies. I am not saying that some of these control features are not real, but that they will be poured on the majority of mankind > is fantasy. If you want to spend your time getting caught up on the minor and sensational stuff, that is your choice, but we have heard enough. Please do not post anymore of this stuff. It is not what our focus is supposed to be on."

Thats it. I'll not be posting anything more on this website. Lastly, if you think that the 'stuff' I wrote about is 'fantasy', it is you who are lost!

Lance, you don't even respond to the questions or the relevant Scriptures. You can't even prove your own statements. Since you appear to only have posted in this thread, that pretty much constitutes spamming, not dialoguing. We are not deceived about it Lance. We are not going to fear any of the scenarios. That's what it's about. You can run around and spew fear of all these things all you like. But that is not what God calls us to. Being aware of some things, yes. But being fearful and controlled by them--NO.

As far as the beast issue, you need to study all the relevant Scriptures. It's not just about a beast, 2 beasts and that's the be all and end all of what it means. Dismissing the other relevant Scriptures means you are without understanding. Studying all on a topic is what is needed, because Scripture interprets Scripture. It's the Holy Spirit that gives us the understanding and it is based on that interpretation at some point. If you would quit worrying about what might be and consider serving Christ day to day, you would probably be able to actually converse and share ideas aka opinions without being dogmatic and everyone else who doesn't agree with you as being lost and deceived.

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The body scanners are not for security. They are to manipulate, degrade, and control people. It is called "security theatre" by those who oppose it. The more the govt strives to "protect", the more freedoms are taken away. Which is why our confidence and trust must be in God - His plan for us is far superior - in every way - to man's attempts against us.
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Sorry for not responding Sheep, I got caught up trying to figure out what Lance was saying. I know about MK Ultra, toxins in the water, Gov. programs to reduce the population... etc, etc, I have had to wade into this pool of disgust and try to reason with people about these subjects. I know these things are real. The thing that scares me most is how people will be effected in their ability to think and reason. That's what I want to explore.

I agree with you sheep and I am concerned with reaching people with the Gospel and it is very difficult to get people to sit still long enough to have a conversation let alone get them to be honest about what they believe.

The body scanners are not for security. They are to manipulate, degrade, and control people. It is called "security theatre" by those who oppose it. The more the govt strives to "protect", the more freedoms are taken away. Which is why our confidence and trust must be in God - His plan for us is far superior - in every way - to man's attempts against us.
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Sorry for not responding Sheep, I got caught up trying to figure out what Lance was saying. I know about MK Ultra, toxins in the water, Gov. programs to reduce the population... etc, etc, I have had to wade into this pool of disgust and try to reason with people about these subjects. I know these things are real. The thing that scares me most is how people will be effected in their ability to think and reason. That's what I want to explore.

I agree with you sheep and I am concerned with reaching people with the Gospel and it is very difficult to get people to sit still long enough to have a conversation let alone get them to be honest about what they believe.


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HI Michael, I have research and a lot of information on those things also. Some I have written about. I do believe we already see the effects of occult influence--because in the end that is where it comes from---even in how people think in our societies, in schools etc. I used to call it the dumbing down of thinking. People have a hard time focusing on a solid discussion, because they are being conditioned to 'fastfood' ideas. If it takes thought and consideration and study, it's almost bypassed for many. Except then the push to read, read, read, but the appetite for the promoted information and books isn't necessarily what God's calls us to. I do believe the influence of all the things brought into this conversation can be presented with supporting facts but always in light of the Scriptures and what Christ has called us to in serving Him and our responses need to show that.

I also believe we see the conditioning taking place under the umbrella of religion and yes Christianity. Many are accepting the concept that they get their understanding from the pastor and the 15 minute sermon, maybe Bible study with books where they don't even need to look at their Bible, because the lesson is all dictated to them. We know the issues with the versions and how the new age/occult has infiltrated and dominated many denominations, the mysticism etc. We know that the assault against true believers can come from those thinking they "are doing God a favor". There's so many avenues of deception and potential for attack --spiritual or physical--that is why we need to follow Christ in complete obedience. He knows what will happen and when. It's likely a good thing we don't have that specific knowledge, but rather the Scriptures and the 'cloud of witnesses' and the prophecies that we can discuss and consider.

(11-18-2010 02:27 PM)MBT Wrote: [ -> ]sheep:
The body scanners are not for security. They are to manipulate, degrade, and control people. It is called "security theatre" by those who oppose it. The more the govt strives to "protect", the more freedoms are taken away. Which is why our confidence and trust must be in God - His plan for us is far superior - in every way - to man's attempts against us.

Quote:Sorry for not responding Sheep, I got caught up trying to figure out what Lance was saying. I know about MK Ultra, toxins in the water, Gov. programs to reduce the population... etc, etc, I have had to wade into this pool of disgust and try to reason with people about these subjects. I know these things are real. The thing that scares me most is how people will be effected in their ability to think and reason. That's what I want to explore.

I agree with you sheep and I am concerned with reaching people with the Gospel and it is very difficult to get people to sit still long enough to have a conversation let alone get them to be honest about what they believe.

I agree with you that there are systems in place that strive to subvert, manipulate, control, and subject people to mind control and environmentally seek to kill off the bulk of society. This is the agenda of the new world order as seen by the 10 commandments listed on the Georgian Stones. With the advance of technology there are much higher forms of technology to alter/damage people's food, brainwashing, what is reported on the news, taught in schools, etc.

The conspiracy theories abound, hence TV programs like Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory" who's motto is "You don't won't believe what you don't know". I watched out of curiosity and after about 10 min flipped it off. In a word ... ridiculous. He is planting fear in people like Lance is doing. And as both Vic and I have pointed out, this is not what our focus should be on. Men have been plotting and scheming for 6,000 yrs to "win", but in the end they will be nothing but dust. God is quite aware of all that is being plotted against humanity. This is what He says:

From Job - the oldest book of the Bible:

Job 5:19 He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee.
Job 5:20 In famine he shall redeem thee from death: and in war from the power of the sword.
Job 5:21 Thou shalt be hid from the scourge of the tongue: neither shalt thou be afraid of destruction when it cometh.
Job 5:22 At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid of the beasts of the earth.
Job 5:23 For thou shalt be in league with the stones of the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee.
Job 5:24 And thou shalt know that thy tabernacle shall be in peace; and thou shalt visit thy habitation, and shalt not sin.
Job 5:25 Thou shalt know also that thy seed shall be great, and thine offspring as the grass of the earth.
Job 5:26 Thou shalt come to thy grave in a full age, like as a shock of corn cometh in in his season.
Job 5:27 Lo this, we have searched it, so it is; hear it, and know thou it for thy good.

Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psa 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Psa 37:1 <A Psalm of David.> Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.
Psa 37:2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
Psa 37:3 Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
Psa 37:4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
Psa 37:5 Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.
Psa 37:6 And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.
Psa 37:7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
Psa 37:8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
Psa 37:9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
Psa 37:10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
Psa 37:11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psa 37:12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
Psa 37:13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
Psa 37:14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
Psa 37:15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
Psa 37:16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
Psa 37:17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
Psa 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
Psa 37:19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
Psa 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
Psa 37:21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
Psa 37:22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
Psa 37:23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
Psa 37:24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.
Psa 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
Psa 37:26 He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
Psa 37:27 Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
Psa 37:28 For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.


Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.