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Here is another self important member of Hebrew roots, although he calls
himself a Natzarim and claims to have had an Orthodox conversion to Judaism.

On his website he has this letter posted, claiming it is a "Letter from then-Chief Rabbi Mordekhai Eliyahu Extending His Blessing to Yi•rәmәyâh′ u Bën-Dâ•vid′ (Van Nest's "Hebrew" name):



However what the letter actually says is:

" Office of the Rishon LeZion Chief Rabbi of Israel

B"H, 24 Sivan 5752

To:
Mr. Yirmeyahu ben David (may He watch him and give him life)
Raanana

Peace and blessing!

We have received your letter to his honor the Rishon LeZion Chief Rabbi of Israel, Mordecai Eliyahu (may he have a good long life!) and your words within it.

Your letter has been brought for the perusal of his honor the Rishon LeZion.

I wish you blessing and success.

With blessing and all goodness,

Rabbi Shmuel Zaafrani
Personal Assistant

All this is is a form letter acknowledging that the Chief Rabbi's office has received a letter from Van Nest....nothing more. And look at the date-
you think he could come up with something a little more recent.

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A link that gives a better view of this letter of "blessings" from the Chief rabbi:

http://www.netzarim.co.il/Shared/Temunot...00x816.jpg

It is really hard not to laugh at some of the contrived "Hebrew names" the Messyantics give themselves, especially since most real Jewish Rabbis in English-speaking countries have ordinary English/Anglicized names.

(03-01-2010 06:51 PM)SheitlQueen Wrote: [ -> ]Here is another self important member of Hebrew roots, although he calls
himself a Natzarim and claims to have had an Orthodox conversion to Judaism.

On his website he has this letter posted, claiming it is a "Letter from then-Chief Rabbi Mordekhai Eliyahu Extending His Blessing to Yi•rәmәyâh′ u Bën-Dâ•vid′ (Van Nest's "Hebrew" name):


However what the letter actually says is:

" Office of the Rishon LeZion Chief Rabbi of Israel

B"H, 24 Sivan 5752

To:
Mr. Yirmeyahu ben David (may He watch him and give him life)
Raanana

Peace and blessing!

We have received your letter to his honor the Rishon LeZion Chief Rabbi of Israel, Mordecai Eliyahu (may he have a good long life!) and your words within it.

Your letter has been brought for the perusal of his honor the Rishon LeZion.

I wish you blessing and success.

With blessing and all goodness,

Rabbi Shmuel Zaafrani
Personal Assistant

All this is is a form letter acknowledging that the Chief Rabbi's office has received a letter from Van Nest....nothing more. And look at the date-
you think he could come up with something a little more recent.

---

A link that gives a better view of this letter of "blessings" from the Chief rabbi:

http://www.netzarim.co.il/Shared/Temunot...00x816.jpg

It takes all kinds doesn't it?

What I read is a general statement from an assistant, not a letter from Rabbi Rishon LeZion himself. The phrase "I wish you blessing and success" and "With blessing and all goodness", are general salutations, not a "blessing" that has been given in a personal way. People just never cease to amaze me

I have read his "testimony" before. He appears to have converted to Orthodox Judaism yet retaining his belief in "Ribi Yәhoshua" aka the "real" Messiah, not the pagan g-d, Jesus Christ. How he can be a part of a Jewish synagogue and openly declare belief in a Messiah that is regarded as false within Judaism is outta here How wacky!

What is even more astounding is that he based his whole "conversion" to Judaism and rejection of Christ on a bird splashing in a bird bath


http://www.netzarim.co.il/Shared/Testimo...vn-ybd.htm

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What is even more astounding is that he based his whole "conversion" to Judaism and rejection of Christ on a bird splashing in a bird bath


I think in Judaism it might actually be viewed as authentic when How incredibly absurd.

(03-01-2010 08:40 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: [ -> ]He appears to have converted to Orthodox Judaism yet retaining his belief in "Ribi Yәhoshua" aka the "real" Messiah, not the pagan g-d, Jesus Christ. How he can be a part of a Jewish synagogue and openly declare belief in a Messiah that is regarded as false within Judaism

Yeah, well I believe his "conversion" story as much as I believe the "we got your correspondence" form letter is a letter of blessing and acceptance.
Even if he could find some wacky rabbi that would convert him, it wouldn't be a valid conversion anyway.

Anders, You were banned for spamming if I recall when you used your nic as andersbranderud. How cute switching it around to get by the ban. YOur post is being deleted as is your ability to access this forum. Don't make me take it to your server.

We sort of forget how many have come through our revolving doors, but here you are. Rather, there you were.

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...791#pid791

(03-14-2010 06:33 PM)Vic Wrote: [ -> ] Anders, You were banned for spamming if I recall when you used your nic as andersbranderud. How cute switching it around to get by the ban. YOur post is being deleted as is your ability to access this forum. Don't make me take it to your server.

We sort of forget how many have come through our revolving doors, but here you are. Rather, there you were.

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...791#pid791

I've seem him popping up all over the internet defending Van Nest and
promoting their website. Thank G-d I won't have to read his drivel here.

(03-14-2010 07:28 PM)SheitlQueen Wrote: [ -> ]I've seem him popping up all over the internet defending Van Nest and
promoting their website. Thank G-d I won't have to read his drivel here.

And we are thanking Him for the "ban" button

Yes, three cheers for the ban button!