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I've wondered for years if this (supposedly Christian) guy was anti-Jewish. Now I definitely think he is. I have one of his books, Codex Magica. Some of the mishmash of links on http://texemarrs.com/links.htm are rather nasty, like "Jew Watch" and Lew Rockwell. The clincher for me is the radio interview he did three days ago with the neo-Nazi site Stormfront dot org, archived below on archive.org:

http://www.archive.org/details/DerekBlac...m3-11-2010

Anyone who calls themselves Christian and runs a site may want to make sure they aren't on his link list.

I knew and met Texe Marrs back in the 1980's. At that time he was not anti-Jewish, he was very pro-Israel. I use to send him research material but over the years he began to change and I noticed he was becoming more and more Anti-Jewish. I can't stand to read his news letters anymore and they are still being sent to me. I don't know what happened to him or what caused the change, but I think he got a hold of some fellow researchers who were Anti-Jewish and believed everything they had to say. I use to call and chat with him on the phone back in the 80's, then when he got real popular he got prideful and wouldn't speak to me or chat on the phone, so I quite sending him information. Others that I knew who knew him too also saw the change and they too backed away. What's sad is that he does have some good information on the Occult....but because he is so rabid toward Jewish people I don't trust his information.

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Quote:At that time he was not anti-Jewish, he was very pro-Israel.

Israel and jews are not synonymous so it is possible that he could just be against the state of Israel and its policies etc but not against the jewish people. There are many many jews out there who are not pro Israel and it's weird when we hear them labelled anti semitic.
I remember a long time ago hearing that Barbara Streisand was anti semitic .It baffled me but it was not til some years later that I found out that what she was against was the Occupation.It seems that if one is jewish and doesn't support Israel then the labels of self hating jew and anti semite get hurled about .

Quote:I don't know what happened to him or what caused the change, but I think he got a hold of some fellow researchers who were Anti-Jewish and believed everything they had to say.

Could it be that as time went on he discovered things about Israel that he was previously unaware of? Many have believed the mis-information that has been widely disseminated for instance, that there were no people such as Palestinians living in the land etc.When they discover the real story people react in different ways.Some of us grieve and kind of mourn it's like finding out that a friend you knew for so many years is no longer who you thought she was.
I think that when christians support Israel they think they are supporting jews when in fact they are supporting a system that is totally contrary to what Jesus taught. Israel is a country, run by a secular Government that does not acknowledge either Christ or the Torah.I think that many don't realise what it is they're supporting and mistakenly think that it is the jewish people.

From all my reading and understanding about Israel is that there were Arabs living in Israel, but mostly normads. The Palestinians, were Arabs, mostly from Syria, Arafat was a Syrian who started the PLO. There is no Palestinian nation, language or country. After WWII, the Middle East was divided up, and Jordan also called Trans Jordan is where many Palestinians lived until Jordan kicked them out for all the trouble they were causing. The PLO was given billions of dollars to help their people, but the money went into Swiss Banks and weapons to carry on the war of "terror". Israel is a country that is run by a Secular Government, as most countries are. I was in Israel in 1986. When we were in Hebron, we stopped to get some fruit. We had a private tour guide, and there were two families, seven of us all together. We got out to buy some fruit, and as soon as we spoke, the Palestinians started throwing rocks at us. We ran for the van, and got out of there. We were all shocked over the matter. I am not saying all Palestinians are like that, but what encounters we did have were not pleasant. The Palestinians have had many chances for peace for land and have refused. Yes there is a lot of misinformation and disinformation. When Mark Twain was in Israel is the 1800's is was mostly desert and few lived there. It was with hard work that the Jewish people turned Israel into a Garden to produce fruit and etc which is sent to Europe.
I would much rather support a Secular Government of Israel than a "terrorist organization" who claim they are the rightful owners of the land. There will be no Peace for Israel, until Jesus comes back. God made a covenant with the Abraham and his seed and with Jacob and Issac. It was an "everlasting covenant". God has dealt with their rebellion and stiff necks. They were to choose blessings or curses. Blessings if they obeyed and curses when they rebelled. I for one stand up for Israel. I my be the only one here to do so, but here I stand. God is not finished with Israel. Israel is the timepiece and Jesus Christ is the "key" of prophecy. We are watching prophecy unfolding.

What breaks my heart is to see, the hatred of the world against Israel. The same hatred that brought on the Holocaust in World War II. I have been watching the PLO and other terrorist group since the 70's and have information spread out in my files. But, if you will read the book, "The Nazi connection to Islamic Terrorism: Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin Al-Husseini" you will see this hatred's birth which has swallowed up the world into believing the lies of peace for land. Yes there is a lot of information out there, but if you seek the truth, and today you must really dig to find the truth, you will find it. Hatred is taught! I remember on 9-11 and watching the Palestinians dancing in the streets! I will never forget it.

We, the USA was a Christian nation of laws and rules were built on Christians-Judaic principles. We were not ashamed of God nor Jesus Christ. Today we are turning into a Socialist State which breaks my heart. But, the pieces are coming together for the world and for the New World Order. The ugly head of Chaos is coming to our streets. Most of the Occupiers don't know what they are there for, except for the money they are being paid and the free food. I watched this same thing during the Vietnam War and all the marches and sit-ins. But, few people followed the money! Those marches and sit-ins were bought and paid for by the Communists in our country and abroad! We are watching the same thing with the Occupiers....follow the money! How bad is this going to get, no one knows, but I think this is just the "tip of the ice berg" of what we are seeing. I pray we are not past the point of no return.

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(10-29-2011 02:52 PM)Gods Lamb Wrote: [ -> ]From all my reading and understanding about Israel is that there were Arabs living in Israel, but mostly normads. The Palestinians, were Arabs, mostly from Syria, Arafat was a Syrian who started the PLO. There is no Palestinian nation, language or country. After WWII, the Middle East was divided up, and Jordan also called Trans Jordan is where many Palestinians lived until Jordan kicked them out for all the trouble they were causing. The PLO was given billions of dollars to help their people, but the money went into Swiss Banks and weapons to carry on the war of "terror". Israel is a country that is run by a Secular Government, as most countries are. I was in Israel in 1986. When we were in Hebron, we stopped to get some fruit. We had a private tour guide, and there were two families, seven of us all together. We got out to buy some fruit, and as soon as we spoke, the Palestinians started throwing rocks at us. We ran for the van, and got out of there. We were all shocked over the matter. I am not saying all Palestinians are like that, but what encounters we did have were not pleasant. The Palestinians have had many chances for peace for land and have refused. Yes there is a lot of misinformation and disinformation. When Mark Twain was in Israel is the 1800's is was mostly desert and few lived there. It was with hard work that the Jewish people turned Israel into a Garden to produce fruit and etc which is sent to Europe.
I would much rather support a Secular Government of Israel than a "terrorist organization" who claim they are the rightful owners of the land. There will be no Peace for Israel, until Jesus comes back. God made a covenant with the Abraham and his seed and with Jacob and Issac. It was an "everlasting covenant". God has dealt with their rebellion and stiff necks. They were to choose blessings or curses. Blessings if they obeyed and curses when they rebelled. I for one stand up for Israel. I my be the only one here to do so, but here I stand. God is not finished with Israel. Israel is the timepiece and Jesus Christ is the "key" of prophecy. We are watching prophecy unfolding.

What breaks my heart is to see, the hatred of the world against Israel. The same hatred that brought on the Holocaust in World War II. I have been watching the PLO and other terrorist group since the 70's and have information spread out in my files. But, if you will read the book, "The Nazi connection to Islamic Terrorism: Adolf Hitler and Haj Amin Al-Husseini" you will see this hatred's birth which has swallowed up the world into believing the lies of peace for land. Yes there is a lot of information out there, but if you seek the truth, and today you must really dig to find the truth, you will find it. Hatred is taught! I remember on 9-11 and watching the Palestinians dancing in the streets! I will never forget it.

We, the USA was a Christian nation of laws and rules were built on Christians-Judaic principles. We were not ashamed of God nor Jesus Christ. Today we are turning into a Socialist State which breaks my heart. But, the pieces are coming together for the world and for the New World Order. The ugly head of Chaos is coming to our streets. Most of the Occupiers don't know what they are there for, except for the money they are being paid and the free food. I watched this same thing during the Vietnam War and all the marches and sit-ins. But, few people followed the money! Those marches and sit-ins were bought and paid for by the Communists in our country and abroad! We are watching the same thing with the Occupiers....follow the money! How bad is this going to get, no one knows, but I think this is just the "tip of the ice berg" of what we are seeing. I pray we are not past the point of no return.

Take Care and God Bless <><

I've seen enough of Texe Marrs stuf to avoid it all. I heard things towards Jews, and forgive me I usually back up these things with documentation but am a little short on time.

Now this issue with Palistianians and Israel-- lets take that to the thread with computer doc and deal with it all there. http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...901&page=3

I will address a few comments here.

You said

Quote:I would much rather support a Secular Government of Israel than a "terrorist organization" who claim they are the rightful owners of the land. There will be no Peace for Israel, until Jesus comes back. God made a covenant with the Abraham and his seed and with Jacob and Issac. It was an "everlasting covenant". God has dealt with their rebellion and stiff necks. They were to choose blessings or curses. Blessings if they obeyed and curses when they rebelled. I for one stand up for Israel. I my be the only one here to do so, but here I stand. God is not finished with Israel. Israel is the timepiece and Jesus Christ is the "key" of prophecy. We are watching prophecy unfolding.

Please be advised there are many Jewish readers, Christian Jews, and practicing Jews --Judaism, on this forum. There are also muslim and many other religious affiliations.

God never abandoned Israel, and I am not sure what that has to do with what you have said because we know that Israel has been given the same choice as the Gentiles, to believe Christ or not. Jesus was the promised salvation of Israel and the apostles and many many Jews believed Christ when He walked the earth and during the ministry of the apostles and since then. They and Gentiles are the Church of Body of Christ.

Luk 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
Luk 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Luk 1:69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
Luk 1:70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luk 1:71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
Luk 1:72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
Luk 1:73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
Luk 1:74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
Luk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
Luk 1:76 And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
Luk 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
Luk 1:78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
Luk 1:79 To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

Luk 2:25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
Luk 2:26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
Luk 2:27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,
Luk 2:28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,
Luk 2:29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:
Luk 2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Luk 2:31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
Luk 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

Peter said it so well here:

Act 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Act 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
Act 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
Act 2:25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
Act 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
Act 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act 2:28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

I stand with and for Jesus Christ and pray for all those who do not know Him, and that crosses all races and religions. That is our commission. There is not one nation or race that stands for Jesus Christ. There are individuals from every nation who serve Him and are part of the Body of Christ, and if one must note race, both Jews and Gentiles. And that is what we are to be about.

Do you have a Scripture that says Israel is the timepiece and Jesus is the key?

Have you ever wondered about how Christians are being hated and mistreated worldwide? Can Christians speak and share the name of Jesus throughout the world and not face any persecution including in the above mentioned places?

Jesus said if we live for Him we will be persecuted. I suppose if Christians aren't being persecuted that would mean, what?

Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Mat 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
Joh 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Joh 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Joh 15:21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
Joh 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
Joh 15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

Rom 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

Rom 12:17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
Rom 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Rom 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
Rom 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

An article I wrote some time ago might be worth the read.
http://www.seekgod.ca/persecution.htm
Persecution Free Christianity. >