Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
I was terrified that I might have done this because I was under strong delusion for many years.I believed and excepted some other spirit
as being the holy spirit and after God had delivered me from it and showed me the truth I was distraught thinking I had
blasphemed the true Holy Ghost.I thought a thread about it might be helpful to me and others that may be in the same situation.
Blaspheme
G987
βλασφημέω
blasphēmeō
blas-fay-meh'-o
From G989; to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: - (speak) blaspheme (-er, -mously, -my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.
Definition of BLASPHEME from Merriam-Webster.com
transitive verb
1
: to speak of or address with irreverence
2
: revile, abuse
intransitive verb
: to utter blasphemy
blaspheme
verb
to use offensive or indecent language <shocked that someone would blaspheme in church, of all places>
Synonyms blaspheme, curse, cuss
Related Words anathematize, confound, damn, execrate, imprecate; fulminate, rail, rant, revile
I know people like to say that it's not something you do on accident..but what about if you're blinded and under strong delusion?
(12-18-2011 10:57 PM)Lois Wrote: [ -> ]Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
I was terrified that I might have done this because I was under strong delusion for many years.I believed and excepted some other spirit
as being the holy spirit and after God had delivered me from it and showed me the truth I was distraught thinking I had
blasphemed the true Holy Ghost.I thought a thread about it might be helpful to me and others that may be in the same situation.
Blaspheme
G987
βλασφημέω
blasphēmeō
blas-fay-meh'-o
From G989; to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: - (speak) blaspheme (-er, -mously, -my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.
Definition of BLASPHEME from Merriam-Webster.com
transitive verb
1
: to speak of or address with irreverence
2
: revile, abuse
intransitive verb
: to utter blasphemy
blaspheme
verb
to use offensive or indecent language <shocked that someone would blaspheme in church, of all places>
Synonyms blaspheme, curse, cuss
Related Words anathematize, confound, damn, execrate, imprecate; fulminate, rail, rant, revile
I know people like to say that it's not something you do on accident..but what about if you're blinded and under strong delusion?
Hi Lois, this is really a tough topic. THere's various views and I am not sure what they all are. And I am not how to say this stuff so it makes sense....
Here's the full passage >
Mar 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
Mar 3:23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
Mar 3:24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
Mar 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
Mar 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
Mar 3:27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mar 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
THey were claiming that Jesus' Spirit was of satan, and that Jesus had an unclean spirit. They denied who He was and the Holy Spirit in Him as being of God.
That's kind of the opposite of someone who has another spirit and thinks it's of God. Being deceived is not unforgivable. Calling the Holy Spirit satan is.
You said >> believed and excepted some other spirit
as being the holy spirit and after God had delivered me from it and showed me the truth I was distraught thinking I had
blasphemed the true Holy Ghost.>>>
In that passage Jesus was delivering people from the demonic--other spirits. Power was given to the apostles to 'cast out devils'. The unclean spirits knew who He was and fell down before Him....
Jesus came to set the captives free, and deliver people from deceptions and many times people had the demonic. He sets people free from those things. So the fact you thought what you had was of God, was merely part of the deception.
Praise God He delivered you from that and showed you the Truth.
Look at what Paul said:
Acts 26:5-11 Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee. 6. And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers: 7. Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews. 8. Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead? 9. I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10. Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them. 11. And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.
1 Timothy 1:12-16 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; 13. Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. 14. And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. 15. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 16. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
You see, we all start out sinners, but regardless, because of Christ we are forgiven, if we believe who He is and what He did for us. Paul was the epitomy of religious zeal, believing what he was doing was of God. And God forgave all of that. The issue seems to be coming to Christ and acknowledging who He is, and that His Spirit is of God.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Colossians 1:19-23 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20. And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. 21. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22. In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23. If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
Ephesians 2:1-10 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2. Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3. Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5. Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6. And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7. That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Thank you Vic,
I think I confuse chastising,condemnation and conviction.I have to remember that I am not being condemned but convicted and there is a big difference.