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I’m going to post an article from a blog (worldviewtimes dot com). This is concerning the topic of Alcoholics Anonymous. If any of your read my testimony, you know that I was married to a “drunk” for almost 20 years until he finally killed himself with alcohol. He went to AA faithfully and I went to that “sister” group..Al-Anon for many years. Christians are being deceived (as I was) into believing that AA and all the other off-shoots of the 12-step programs has Christian roots and that Bill W and Dr. Bob were Christians. Well folks, AA (and any program based on the 12-steps of AA) is NEW AGE spirituality. I will post this article in two parts because of the length. The author used another version of the Bible than the KJV, so I changed his Scripture to KJV. (the only change I made).

Give Me That Old Time, New Age Religion
Excerpted from "Alcoholics Anonymous is a sub-trend of the New Age." --Ehud Sperling
In the small town where I worship, a neighboring church holds Alcoholics Anonymous meetings on an almost daily basis. They know the Scriptures that clearly forbid mixing our Savior in with false gods, and yet this has made no difference. They do what they do because that is what they want to do.

Not that this is unusual. It is happening all over our nation--churches embracing anti-Biblical activity, and choosing to portray it as God's perfect will. We even find books to validate what we prefer to believe about the nature of God Himself.

The novel The Shack falls into this category. Despite its errant theology it remains a best seller, and may ultimately prove to be a significant dividing line between the Body of Christ and the rising apostate Church. But this is no less true of Alcoholics Anonymous.

"Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit. Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. (Jeremiah 2:11-12).

We have gone far beyond individual Christians simply attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. Now, increasingly, Alcoholics Anonymous is allowed to hold meetings in Bible believing churches. A.A. membership by definition demands a faith in the 12 Step process, and many Christians end up with a syncretistic belief system-Biblical teachings have been weakened and welded with 12 Step theology.

The Lord tells us to "come out from among them, and be ye separate," for good reason. (2 Corinthians 6:14-17) He tells us “evil communications corrupt good manners.” (1 Corinthians 15:33) In like manner, exposure to bad theology often corrupts sound doctrine.

Some years ago Martin and Deidre Bobgan wrote '12 Steps To Destruction,'
a blunt and accurate analysis of the 12 Step movement. This well-researched book angered some and was ignored by others. The authors write, "Twelve-Step programs are in essence New Age religions and Archetypical precursors of a one-world religion. They do not hold a common doctrine of God and His creation."[1]

You will find that, sure enough, a quick internet search demonstrates how compatible 12 Step groups are with New Age/New Spirituality. Or, really, with anything else. According to PASS IT ON, A.A. cofounder Bill Wilson "felt A.A.'s usefulness was worldwide, and contained spiritual principles that members of any and every religion could accept, including the Eastern religions."[2]

A.A.'s Step 3 states, "Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him." Jesus Christ is never mentioned in the 12 Steps. This is not surprising considering the source from which the 12 Steps originated.

Martin and Deidre Bobgan further note, "The common goal of the one-world religion will be peace-for the sake of survival. Each goal is centered on self and in the now, not in God or eternity. The goal takes precedence over the One True God. Whatever god or goddess is chosen as the higher power is subservient to that goal. All of these fit into the New Age spirituality: no absolutes, many ways, self-enhancement."[3]

There are those in the church who are fully committed to the all-gods religion of Alcoholics Anonymous. They are enthralled with it. They have friends, warm feelings, perhaps even sobriety through A.A. So, although they know the Scriptures, the 12 Step path is the way they have decided to go.

But there are also those who simply do not know better. Some of these are new Christians, and they are in Alcoholics Anonymous because they have been told that is the only possible way to sobriety; or because other Christians have recommended it.
Then, of course, there are the books. Numerous books erroneously portraying A.A. not only as compatible with Christianity, but as Christian in origin. These have done much damage.
With all the urgency I can summon, I tell you the Lord wants His people out of Alcoholics Anonymous. He wants His people to quit feeding this shimmering, glimmering chameleon of a spiritual system. The Ancient of Days will take care of those in bondage to alcohol if we but give Him the opportunity. How do I know this? It's right there in the Bible. And so it was for me.

Alcoholics Anonymous teaches that if one is to overcome alcoholism, one must turn one's life and will over to a "higher power." It doesn't matter what (or whom) one believes in, and worships, it only matters that one must worship something.

My friend, do not rationalize that this is still okay because you, in the middle of A.A., worship Christ. Alcoholics Anonymous denies the Sovereignty of Jesus Christ, and you are not to have anything to do with it. It is, as Paul tells us, a false gospel.

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:6-8)

Christians in A.A. are literally praying and worshiping with New Age folk and others who, as they have been encouraged, have custom-created their own gods. To justify belonging to such a religion, some Christians claim it is okay because, well, it's all about evangelism.

And so it is. Unfortunately, it is the usually Christians themselves who are "evangelized," who are unknowingly affected by the theology of the 12 Step religion. This is why God tells us to stay away from such a thing in the first place.

This is potentially a fertile mission field, but such a ministry is not for those Christians who are already caught in 12 Step theology. There are many wonderful people in A.A. bowing to various deities. The best thing we can do for them is to obey God, get out, and pray for Him to strengthen our churches.

A great separation is taking place. For the 12 Step religion-an anti-Christian religion-grows stronger everyday. Emergent/comtemplative/12 Step Spirituality will continue to blend together. False gods will boldly be celebrated and elevated.

Commenting on A.A.'s invent-a-god theology, Martin and Deidre Bobgan point out, "When one configures his own image of god and places himself under that power, he is essentially his own god, because he finds that god within himself and within his own experience."[4]

Do Christians in A.A. know the Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book-the A.A. "bible"-promotes the New Age lie of inner divinity? The Big Book states, "Sometimes we had to search fearlessly but He was there. He was as much a fact as we were. We found the Great Reality deep down within us. In the last analysis, it is only there that He may be found."[5]

Really? The Bible tells us God dwells only in those who have accepted Jesus Christ. This may sound harsh, but none of us should be found in A.A., unless the Lord Himself sends us there as missionaries.

Endnotes:
1. Martin and Deidre Bobgan, 12 Steps To Destruction, pg.116
2. PASS IT ON, Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc., pg.283
3. Martin and Deidre Bobgan, 12 Steps To Destruction, pg.116
4. Ibid., pg.116
5. Alcoholics Anonymous, Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc., pg.55
Very interesting article. And true about AA, the new age, etc. We as a family were involved in the AA groups because of my dad. If I recall we went to a couple of the teen group meetings and I found my best friend from school was there and a few others. So we found nothing of value to be there. My dad did attempt the 12 steps, but was drawn to Christ via an old neighbor. He realised it was not scriptural later.

We also, while looking for a church in another city at the time, checked churches out by what programs they had and promoted. One pastor I called, whose church had just gone through an ugly split, said they had AA, Alpha, and a long list of groups we knew we could not abide. So the hope of fellowship there went out the window. Not that we couldn't have joined and worked on the issues. But with my website the nature it is, we wanted to have fellowship and study as a couple, without having to enter into compromise to get have it.

It isn't likely one can enter a church and start telling everyone why AA, and many of the other programs are wrong and against Scripture and be of any effect. You have to deal with individuals and hopefully dialogue with the pastor. But honestly, if the pastor and elders have accepted these things, it is because they have ignored or denied the Scriptures. They should know better. And the fruit of who they are and what they abide is in those programs.


Amo 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed? No
I have a book about AA, I think it was written by Cathy Burns, in which AA is revealed to have Masonic origins. Masons of course worship whichever "higher power" they desire, so it makes sense that AA would have carried the doctrine with them.
(04-06-2009 02:42 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote: [ -> ]I have a book about AA, I think it was written by Cathy Burns, in which AA is revealed to have Masonic origins. Masons of course worship whichever "higher power" they desire, so it makes sense that AA would have carried the doctrine with them.

Interesting, and definitely not surprising.

I did some poking around and found this article with a few quotes posted here:


Quote:Alcoholics Anonymous Cofounders Were Not Christians


It is a fearful thing, leaving AA. The Big Book (the AA "bible") states, "We thought we could find an easier, softer way. But we could not."[1] Because this passage of AA "scripture" is taken literally, alcoholics rarely look elsewhere for help. Christians continue to jam their God, the Ancient of Days, into AA's chameleon theology.

Dr. Bob certainly did read the Bible. Yet, as Susan Cheever states, "Bob began every morning with meditation and prayer and twenty minutes of Bible study. Like Bill, Bob believed in paranormal possibility and the two men spent time 'spooking,' invoking spirits of the dead."[2]

Early AA member Tom Powers saw the AA cofounders firsthand as they engaged in spiritualistic practices the Lord detests. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) "Now, these people, Bill and Bob, believed vigorously and aggressively. They were working away at the spiritualism; it was not just a hobby."[3]

It is not well known that Dr. Bob was a Mason. Suspended in 1934, he gained reinstatement after being sober for some years.[4] According to John Weldon, "The truth is that Masonry is a distinct religion that espouses teachings incompatible with Christian faith in the areas of God, salvation, and other important doctrines."[5]

Interestingly, the description of the Mason god, the Great Architect, is similar to the higher power worshiped in Alcoholics Anonymous. Masonic researcher Carl H. Claudy notes, "Masonry does not specify any god or creed; she requires merely that you believe in some Deity, give him what name you will…. A belief in God is essential to a Mason but…any God will do…"[6]

Alcoholics Anonymous teaches the "higher power" could be a doorknob, a spirit, a fruit salad, the universe, the Dallas Cowboys (when they are winning), a new age version of Jesus, or anything else. Like the Masons, it doesn't matter what god you believe in-only that you believe in something.

It seems that someone as allegedly devout and well versed in the Bible as Dr. Bob would stay far away from spiritualism and the Masonic organization. He most emphatically did not. Equally perplexing is Dr. Bob's enthusiasm for Emmet Fox's sweet-sounding but heretical book, 'The Sermon on the Mount.'[7]

This is no minor point, since this book denies that Jesus Christ is Savior. The book was used as a teaching tool by Alcoholics Anonymous before the Big Book was written. In 'The Sermon on the Mount,' author Emmet Fox states there is no such thing as original sin; that the account of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden is not intended as literal history; that Jesus never walked on the water. He writes, "The 'Plan of Salvation' which figured so prominently in the evangelical sermons of a past generation is as completely unknown to the Bible as it is to the Koran."[8]

Fox instructs, "In the Bible the term 'Christ' is not identical with Jesus, the individual. It is a technical term that may be briefly defined as the Absolute Spiritual Truth about anything."[9] Clearly Emmet Fox, dead for decades, would have made an ideal guest on one of Oprah Winfrey's New Spirituality shows.

Fox was an eloquent adherent of the New Thought religion. This belief system teaches that our thoughts determine our reality, and that we too can learn to tap into the same divine power that Jesus the man harnessed.

The article is quite extensive:

http://www.worldviewtimes.com/article.ph...cleid-3537
I found that same article too sheep! I also have John Lanagan's blog address. It's on wordpress (mywordlikefire)

YYZ Skinhead..

I have Cathy Burn's book too.."Alcoholics Anonymous Unmasked" Excellent book!

Another great book is one by Martin & Deidre Bobgan called "12 Steps To Destruction".
(04-06-2009 03:07 PM)LindaR Wrote: [ -> ]I found that same article too sheep! I also have John Lanagan's blog address. It's on wordpress (mywordlikefire)

YYZ Skinhead..

I have Cathy Burn's book too.."Alcoholics Anonymous Unmasked" Excellent book!

Another great book is one by Martin & Deidre Bobgan called "12 Steps To Destruction".

Thanx for the resources! 519

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You are very welcome! Are you familiar with Martin & Deidre Bobgan's ministry..Psychoheresy Awareneness Ministries? I believe they have the "12 Steps to Destruction" posted as a "free" ebook on their website.
Wow. That article is informative and unnerving. 10171 I haven't read AA Unmasked in years and I'd forgotten the scary spiritistic details in the history. I'll have to read 12 Steps To Destruction as well. Props for the references!
12 Steps To Destruction is available as a "free" ebook on the Psychoheresy-Aware website.
(04-06-2009 03:31 PM)LindaR Wrote: [ -> ]You are very welcome! Are you familiar with Martin & Deidre Bobgan's ministry..Psychoheresy Awareneness Ministries? I believe they have the "12 Steps to Destruction" posted as a "free" ebook on their website.

Sounds like a "must read" - I am going to print it off to read! Mucho Gracias Wave

ps: You have over 50 posts, so you can put links in your posts now Cheer
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