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What About The Star of David?
04-05-2009, 01:04 PM
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(04-05-2009 06:17 AM)4given Wrote:  I am doing a study on this just now and thanks to google ended up on your site.

I gave my Messianic friend some info I had on this and she has sent me back the following:

Quote:the name that is used in the Aramaic text is actually Rephan (Repa in Coptic) not Remphan

Quote:The star that represents Rephan is actually a five pointed star like the ones on the american flag.

This is the symbol for Seb aka Repa, Rephan, Chiun-Rephan, Rempham, Remphan

http://www.atlantisquest.com/hiero6.jpg and this is the image she showed

and she pointed out that it was a 5 pointed star and not 6 pointed and that the 5 pointed star represented the Egyptian god and not the 6 pointed one. Plus the following:

Quote:David's name was spelled by using the Hebrew letter Dalet. During the time of David this Dalet was written using a triangle. The Dalet of that time period looks nothing like the modern Hebrew Dalet. Here is a http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/starofdavid explaining more and here is another http://www.therefinersfire.org/star_of_david

I was told that I was trying to wipe our Jewishness and it was just a counter attack by the church since the HR movement have shown how pagan the Church is.

Is there any proof that Dalet is the reason for the Star of David?

Thank you

I found a couple of articles on the net. The 2nd one is from a Jewish website - perhaps that will lend some credibility to the concept that the hexagram was not associated with David or the dalet in his name. That is myth/legend similar to other myths that the HR movement latches onto as "historical fact".


Quote: Magen David is a generally recognized symbol of Judaism and Jewish identity and is also known colloquially as the Jewish Star or "Star of David". Its usage as a sign of Jewish identity began in the Middle Ages, though its religious usage began earlier, with the current earliest archeological evidence being a stone bearing the shield from the arch of a 3-4th century synagogue in the Galilee [1]. A more enduring symbol of Judaism, the menorah, has been in use since BCE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagram


The evolution of the six-pointed Jewish star, the "Magen David," literally the "Shield of David." also known as the hexagram, or more rarely, *Solomon's Seal, is long and complex. Although it is now the most common and universally recognized sign of Judaism and Jewish identity, both within and outside of the Jewish community, it has only achieved this status in the last two hundred years. Before that it was chiefly associated with magic or with the insignia of individual families or communities. Yet despite its equivocal history, Jews have long been attracted to this design and have sought to ascribe to it venerable origins. In our own day, its universal Jewish popularity, especially as the symbol of the State of Israel, has made the question of its origins moot.

Because of its geometric symmetry, the hexagram has been a popular symbol in many cultures from earliest times. Anthropologists claim that the triangle pointing downward represents female sexuality, and the triangle pointing upward, male sexuality; thus, their combination symbolizes unity and harmony. In alchemy, the two triangles symbolize *"fire" and *"water"; together, they represent the reconciliation of opposites. Some medieval alchemists even borrowed the talmudic pun - ish mayim, fiery water, and shamayim , heaven - to demonstrate the interpenetration of the two realms. 1 Because if this symbolism, the hexagram was even used occasionally as the emblem displayed above a brandy shop.

The earliest known Jewish use of the hexagram was as a seal in ancient Israel (6th century B.C.E.) and then eight centuries later in a *synagogue frieze in Capernaum. But these early hexagrams may have been only ornamental designs; ironically, a swastika, another popular ancient motif, appears alongside the hexagram on the Capernaum synagogue wall. In the Middle Ages, hexagrams appear frequently on churches, but rarely in synagogues or on Jewish ritual objects. It was the *menorah that served as the primary Jewish symbol from antiquity until the post-Renaissance period, not the " Jewish star."

Although scholars have attempted to trace the Star of David back to King David himself; to Rabbi Akiva and the Bar Kokhba ("son of the star") rebellion (135 C.E.); or to *kabbalists, especially Rabbi Isaac Luria (16th century), no Jewish literature or artifacts document this claim. Rather, all evidence suggests that the early use of the hexagram was limited to "practical Kabbalah," that is, Jewish magic, probably dating back to the 6th century C.E. Legends connect this symbol with the "Seal of Solomon," the magical signet signet *ring used by King Solomon to control demons and spirits. 2 Although the original ring was inscribed with the Tetragrammaton, the sacred Four-Letter *Name of God, medieval *amulets imitating this ring substituted the hexagram or pentagram (five-pointed stare), often accompanied by rampant *lions, for the sacred Name. The star inscribed on these rings was usually called the "Seal of Solomon."

Among Jewish mystics and wonderworkers, the hexagram was most commonly used as a magical protection against demons, often inscribed on the outside of *mezuzot and on amulets.

http://www.menorah.org/starofdavid.html[/quote]
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What About The Star of David? - LindaR - 03-29-2009, 08:58 PM
RE: What About The Star of David? - LindaR - 03-30-2009, 06:04 PM
RE: What About The Star of David? - Vic - 03-30-2009, 06:17 PM
RE: What About The Star of David? - Vic - 03-30-2009, 06:24 PM
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RE: What About The Star of David? - Vic - 03-31-2009, 09:52 PM
RE: What About The Star of David? - LindaR - 04-02-2009, 04:55 PM
RE: What About The Star of David? - 4given - 04-05-2009, 06:17 AM
RE: What About The Star of David? - sheep wrecked - 04-05-2009 01:04 PM
RE: What About The Star of David? - Vic - 04-05-2009, 01:28 PM
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