Hebrew4Christians, praying for Israel, Palestinians, etc

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(10-18-2011 08:41 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote:  "seems to encourage" = what? It seems that you are probably over-reacting to the "pretend Jews" who claim to be messianic. Am I right?

Quote:I don't think you will find anything that encourages Talmudic concepts.

Quote:Well if you read through the articles, for instance, the Rosh Hashana one, or the Akeida one, they give the Talmudic quotations and interpretations very clearly.

It has nothing to do with "over reaction to pretend jews" as you suggested.

What it has to do with is that Talmudic interpretations came about much later than Jesus and arose out of the religious system that rejected Him.

Charles: Is there only one religious system that rejects Yeshua? Or are we all responsible individually for our attitudes and behaviour?

Quote:Rose: Is there any one or any group which has a monopoly on the truth about Yeshua or Christianity?

Would it be appropriate to go to Hindu or Islamic writings in order to better understand the Gospel?

Was Yeshua Jewish?

Did Christianity come from the Jews first?

If Hinduism was the root of Christianity, YES it would be appropriate. However neither Hinduism or Islam are roots of Christianity, Judaism IS.
I love my messiah. Why would I not want to know more about what it was like for him as a Jew?

You know when you first fall in love? You want to know EVERYTHING about the one you love.

Rose, You seem a little over-cautious about studying Judaic roots and I am sure there is a reason for it even if I guessed wrong above.

Quote:Then why is it appropriate to waste time finding wisdom or aid to understanding in the system that seeks to understand the Bible whilst completely rejecting Jesus role in it in the process?

Charles: Is it wasting time to find out about the one you love? Or is that a judgement? Perhaps if I knew you I would think that you waste time. I am sure you don't perfectly fulfill the will of the Father every moment do you Rose?

I see your over-reaction Rose. Just have not determined why yet.

Have you ever listened to First Century Foundations by Joe Amaral on Miracle Channel? You can also see it online at firstcentury "dot" "tv". Joe does practise some of the rituals of remembrance of Judaism such as often having a seder, or celebrating some of the feasts, which is okay. WE were never instructed to drop them. But that doesn't mean you HAVE to celebrate them nor does it mean that you CANNOT.

Quote:Rose: Why would we want to practise a seder? A seder is not what Jesus attended. At the time of Jesus, the Temple stood and they obeyed the Law and had the Passover with a lamb, they had the priesthood etc.The seder that people do now is what Judaism replaced the Temple Services with, following its destruction.A seder is what the religion that rejects Christ practises.Bringing Jesus into it at various points doesn't make it any more acceptable in my view.

Charles: What was the last supper? It was Passover. Passover is a seder.

Quote:Rose: Computerdoc, if someone is jewish I don't see anything wrong with them continuing to attend family seders since it's a family tradition but for a gentile to begin doing it thinking he honours Christ this way is wrong in my view. Or completely unnecessary.

Charles: Do you have a scripture to indicate that it is wrong to attend and be part of a seder? I have not found any yet.

For me it just reminds me of the background of my Lord. It reminds me why Jews have always been the most hated people on Earth. It reminds me that God the Father picked the Jewish people to bring his truth to the world. There are prophecies about what happens in the end times re the Jews.

They didn't get it all right, but do we?

Which Christian denomination has a monopoly on the truth? Do you think there is one?


I see in your answers Rose, that you have let your emotions trump your thought processes. Why?

I am open to scriptural principles which guide our behavior. I am not open to one group having a monopoly on the truth.

Do we practise Christianity perfectly and in the first century, they did not?

I am very interested in your take on this.

By nature I am a peacemaker, not a diplomat. Peace comes from confronting truth and belief and letting truth win.

God Bless You
Charles