Is Easter Pagan?

[Mary]

"Easter was Christianized when it was set on a specific day of the week (Sunday) instead of a set time after the new moon
which would put it on a different weekday each year just as Passover is today."

Then your pagan friend should celebrate his 'true' easter on that set time after new moon, and not worry about what Christians are doing on Resurrection Easter Sunday.

[truth pick]

(08-01-2010 02:44 PM)Dredge Wrote:  I never said what I thought of Easter, I only commented what a pagan said, trying to show that Easter means different things to different people.

Webster's 1913 Dictionary definds Easter as:

\Eas"ter\, n. [AS. e['a]ster, e['a]stran, paschal feast,
Easter; akin to G. ostern; fr. AS. E['a]stre, a goddess of
light or spring, in honor of whom a festival was celebrated
in April; whence this month was called in AS.
E['a]sterm[=o]na[eth]. From the root of E. east. See {East}.]

Easton Bible Dictionary gives this definition

originally a Saxon word (Eostre), denoting a goddess of the Saxons, in honour of whom sacrifices were offered
about the time of the Passover. Hence the name came to be given to the festival of the Resurrection of Christ,
which occured at the time of the Passover. In the early English versions this word was frequently used as the
translation of the Greek pascha (the Passover). When the Authorized Version (1611) was formed, the word
"passover" was used in all passages in which this word pascha occurred, except in Act 12:4. In the Revised
Version the proper word, "passover," is always used.

To me states that thru Christ's keeping of the Father's commandments of the Mosaic covenant I am given the lighter yoke of keeping Christ's
commandments of the new covenant.
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I find that intriguing because if you research, there was no such goddess as "ostare"/"ostern". It was quoted by one author that she a German myth and there is no historical or archeaological evidence that such a goddess was worshiped or had a festival in her honor in the spring. Even the author who offered up this myth was not convinced she was an actual goddess other than perhaps some obscure or remote figure that was never commonly known. Ostare is the German word for Easter.

I think it's more of a Christianized term than a pagan one. But I guess people need to make more of something than is really there. Myths and legends always appeal more than the truth

[TheWatchman]

Is Easter Pagan?

I believe the question answers Itself immediately!

"Where in scripture does Shaul (Paul), or any other author in the "New testament" observe "Easter" as written?"

I have read from front to back and I have yet to find where "Easter" is to be grafted into the church (Body of Yeshua Messiah). The Greek Orthodox dye eggs and lay them on the altar to this day, which is inside their synagogue, which is a well known place for a pagan altar. The modern churches have adopted this practice, although they do not sacrifice animals, but sacrifice the past there, and even use it to commune with Yahweh. ALL altars of sacrifice for Judah are outside. Always have been! You can watch the movie, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" and you will see them dying eggs dark (blood) red.

I have not yet read in this forum where anyone gave Scriptural reference for observing Easter as written as a sabbath, whether weekly or high. If we cannot display proof of observance through the law and guidelines, we must disavow such activities. If what we observe and do is from Pagan roots, and then say it is of Yahweh, then it is tainted and is an abomination, which is the harshest word in the Hebrew language.

It's the same with the symbols we see on churches and jewelry, the cross of Mithra, and the steeple resembling the ***** of Ra. Again, no Scriptural reference for displaying these symbols for believers from any of the authors of "New testament", or the Torah, or Yeshua Messiah. If we cannot justify through scripture, these things and practices, they must not be observed and performed. Yahshua, nor Shaul, ever dyed an egg!

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(08-18-2010 02:12 PM)TheWatchman Wrote:  Is Easter Pagan?

I believe the question answers Itself immediately!

"Where in scripture does Shaul (Paul), or any other author in the "New testament" observe "Easter" as written?"

I have read from front to back and I have yet to find where "Easter" is to be grafted into the church (Body of Yeshua Messiah). The Greek Orthodox dye eggs and lay them on the altar to this day, which is inside their synagogue, which is a well known place for a pagan altar. The modern churches have adopted this practice, although they do not sacrifice animals, but sacrifice the past there, and even use it to commune with Yahweh. ALL altars of sacrifice for Judah are outside. Always have been! You can watch the movie, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" and you will see them dying eggs dark (blood) red.

I have not yet read in this forum where anyone gave Scriptural reference for observing Easter as written as a sabbath, whether weekly or high. If we cannot display proof of observance through the law and guidelines, we must disavow such activities. If what we observe and do is from Pagan roots, and then say it is of Yahweh, then it is tainted and is an abomination, which is the harshest word in the Hebrew language.

It's the same with the symbols we see on churches and jewelry, the cross of Mithra, and the steeple resembling the ***** of Ra. Again, no Scriptural reference for displaying these symbols for believers from any of the authors of "New testament", or the Torah, or Yeshua Messiah. If we cannot justify through scripture, these things and practices, they must not be observed and performed. Yahshua, nor Shaul, ever dyed an egg!

I keep hearing about the whole thing about Easter. But I am not sure what that big deal is

I have celebrated Easter my whole life and it was the time of year that we colored eggs and got a basket from the Easter bunny - which my Mom used to hide around the house. She always gave us cutsie little stuff which was a nice break in the year. For kids, it's just FUN!!

The most important part about Easter was Jesus' resurrection. I remember that most of my life we either sang the Hallelujah Chorus [Handel] or joined in with a choir during church on Easter Sunday. It used to give me goose bumps [still does ]. How I LOVE that song!! It was so cool to worship our risen Savior,the Lord of lords and King of kings on Easter Sunday. I never once, for as long as I can remember, thot of the Easter bunny as replacing Jesus or that Easter was some pagan thingie.

It just seems like people are making mountains out of molehills these days with all the hoopla over Easter being pagan. Jesus said to remember His death. Check The entire NT is about our risen Lord. check

I think people need to get real and go out and do something for the Lord instead of harping on "pagan" Easter

ps: I see that you use "Yahshua" - it's kind of funny really. You seem to be all up on "Scriptural reference", yet use a name that is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures

[TheWatchman]

I keep hearing about the whole thing about Easter. But I am not sure what that big deal is

I have celebrated Easter my whole life and it was the time of year that we colored eggs and got a basket from the Easter bunny - which my Mom used to hide around the house. She always gave us cutsie little stuff which was a nice break in the year. For kids, it's just FUN!!

The most important part about Easter was Jesus' resurrection. I remember that most of my life we either sang the Hallelujah Chorus [Handel] or joined in with a choir during church on Easter Sunday. It used to give me goose bumps [still does ]. How I LOVE that song!! It was so cool to worship our risen Savior,the Lord of lords and King of kings on Easter Sunday. I never once, for as long as I can remember, thot of the Easter bunny as replacing Jesus or that Easter was some pagan thingie.

It just seems like people are making mountains out of molehills these days with all the hoopla over Easter. Jesus said to remember His death. Check The entire NT is about our risen Lord. check

I think people need to get real and go out and do something for the Lord instead of harping on "pagan" Easter
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Wow! So, if I take Holloween and carve a pumpkin and put a cross on it and place it in an Easter basket, and I make a Holy prayer and ritual for Yahweh with it then I am not creating a false God? I fail to see how that tradition is any different than Easter. Neither are stipulated in Scripture. Do you personally believe that a tradition, one from which you don't know where it came from can be assimilated into a believers ritual and still be Holy (set apart)? How is it that we can place a strict adherence to Easter and not Scripturally based activities and expect it to be Holy? I even find it kind of odd that there are not 3 days and 3 nights between good Friday and "Easter Sun-Day" which is not even in Scripture. Easter Sun-Day never came out of the mout of any author of any Book of Scripture.
Basically, under what Scriptural basis do we have for adding rituals to the Word?

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I used to observe Easter "religiously", until I learned Easter was a pagan God (Semiramis reincarnate...Tammuz's mother and Nimrods wife), the twelve breasted Goddess of fertility who ascended from heaven into the Nile in an egg and turned a bird into an egg laying rabbit (the symbol of fertility, which is why Playboy uses it as their symbol). After the 40 days of the weeping for Tammuz (now Lent), babies would be sacrificed on the altar of Tammuz and eggs dipped in their blood to stain them red. The priests would then impregnate virgins on the altar and their babies would then be sacrificed the next year at 3 months of age. The altar cave can still be visited in Israel. It is consequently called the cave of Tammuz.

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(08-18-2010 04:55 PM)TheWatchman Wrote:  Wow! So, if I take Holloween and carve a pumpkin and put a cross on it and place it in an Easter basket, and I make a Holy prayer and ritual for Yahweh with it then I am not creating a false God? I fail to see how that tradition is any different than Easter. Neither are stipulated in Scripture. Do you personally believe that a tradition, one from which you don't know where it came from can be assimilated into a believers ritual and still be Holy (set apart)? How is it that we can place a strict adherence to Easter and not Scripturally based activities and expect it to be Holy? I even find it kind of odd that there are not 3 days and 3 nights between good Friday and "Easter Sun-Day" which is not even in Scripture. Easter Sun-Day never came out of the mout of any author of any Book of Scripture.
Basically, under what Scriptural basis do we have for adding rituals to the Word?

Adding the Easter bunny is not adding to Jesus. I think that is what trips you up So what if Christians color eggs? Those things have nothing to do with Jesus. We don't put colored eggs up on the pulpit and bow down to them or have the Easter Bunny on the cross or in the tomb!!!! You are kinda bunched up about stuff Time to chill out

You need to get over Michael Rood. I think he has filled your head with a lot of nonsense

[TheWatchman]

ps: I see that you use "Yahshua" - it's kind of funny really. You seem to be all up on "Scriptural reference", yet use a name that is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures
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That's because your Bible is translated from the Greek, who replace Jesus' Hebrew name "Yahshua" with Jesus Christ. Cristo, the Greek word is used in Greek mythology to mean "Holy". They used it in reference to all their Gods, as they revered them all as holy. Jesus is not the son of Miriam (Mary) and Joseph (Yoseph) Christ! That is not his last name! Yah is in the name of many hebrew names...Mattithyahu (matthew)...etc. Yah basically means "of Yahweh" (God). You can find Bibles with the original Hebrew spellings on the internet.

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(08-18-2010 05:18 PM)truth pick Wrote:  

(08-18-2010 04:55 PM)TheWatchman Wrote:  Wow! So, if I take Holloween and carve a pumpkin and put a cross on it and place it in an Easter basket, and I make a Holy prayer and ritual for Yahweh with it then I am not creating a false God? I fail to see how that tradition is any different than Easter. Neither are stipulated in Scripture. Do you personally believe that a tradition, one from which you don't know where it came from can be assimilated into a believers ritual and still be Holy (set apart)? How is it that we can place a strict adherence to Easter and not Scripturally based activities and expect it to be Holy? I even find it kind of odd that there are not 3 days and 3 nights between good Friday and "Easter Sun-Day" which is not even in Scripture. Easter Sun-Day never came out of the mout of any author of any Book of Scripture.
Basically, under what Scriptural basis do we have for adding rituals to the Word?

Adding the Easter bunny is not adding to Jesus. I think that is what trips you up So what if Christians color eggs? Those things have nothing to do with Jesus. We don't put colored eggs up on the pulpit and bow down to them or have the Easter Bunny on the cross or in the tomb!!!! You are kinda bunched up about stuff Time to chill out

You need to get over Michael Rood. I think he has filled your head with a lot of nonsense

So where's the scriptural precedent for keeping the tradition of Easter? I was accused of learning a thing or two from Michael Rood, but you didn't justify with scripture how I am wrong, or how you are right?

"Thou shalt have no other God's in my face"

[truth pick]

(08-18-2010 05:20 PM)TheWatchman Wrote:  ps: I see that you use "Yahshua" - it's kind of funny really. You seem to be all up on "Scriptural reference", yet use a name that is not found in the Hebrew Scriptures

That's because your Bible is translated from the Greek, who replace Jesus' Hebrew name "Yahshua" with Jesus Christ. Cristo, the Greek word is used in Greek mythology to mean "Holy". They used it in reference to all their Gods, as they revered them all as holy. Jesus is not the son of Miriam (Mary) and Joseph (Yoseph) Christ! That is not his last name! Yah is in the name of many hebrew names...Mattithyahu (matthew)...etc. Yah basically means "of Yahweh" (God). You can find Bibles with the original Hebrew spellings on the internet.

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wow - you are like a walking book of Michael's stuff. You weren't just kidding when you said you liked him

Like I said, you must not be reading much around here. There are threads on all this stuff that refute all this junk. I think you just wanna get things riled up

Check out the Hebrew Roots section under "What's the True Name of God?". I can't post links yet.

[TheWatchman]

(08-01-2010 04:31 PM)Mary Wrote:  "Easter was Christianized when it was set on a specific day of the week (Sunday) instead of a set time after the new moon
which would put it on a different weekday each year just as Passover is today."

Then your pagan friend should celebrate his 'true' easter on that set time after new moon, and not worry about what Christians are doing on Resurrection Easter Sunday.

Jesus rose on Easter Sunday? How? If He died on Good Friday, how do we get 3 days and 3 nights between Friday and Sunday? Is it possible He actually died on Wednesday? That would make more sense, and justify the math. I tend to believe Scripture is correct, and ritual is wrong. Jesus (Yahshua) said there would only be one sign of the true messiah...that He would be 3 days and 3 nights in the Earth. What happened to the math?

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Like I said, you must not be reading much around here. There are threads on all this stuff that refute all this junk. I think you just wanna get things riled up[/size]

Check out the Hebrew Roots section under "What's the True Name of God?". I can't post links yet.
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I did...It's all goop! It's one man calling another wrong. But you still have not justified through scripture that we are to practice Easter Sunday as written. Where is "Easter Sunday" written in scripture for us to keep in remembrance of Yahshua? How does a believer justify rituals scripturally that do not exist in scripture? If you are justified, this should be easy to answer.

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(08-18-2010 05:20 PM)TheWatchman Wrote:  I did...It's all goop! It's one man calling another wrong. But you still have not justified through scripture that we are to practice Easter Sunday as written. Where is "Easter Sunday" written in scripture for us to keep in remembrance of Yahshua? How does a believer justify rituals scripturally that do not exist in scripture? If you are justified, this should be easy to answer.

What's wrong with the article? Pick out a point and refute it. Then we can have a real debate

See, you keep misapplying stuff. Easter is not about rituals. Easter is about celebrating our risen Lord with honor, adoration, glory, praise and worship. He bought us with a price so extreme that we just don't get it in our puny minds. You wanna make that like it's insignificant and talk about pagan yadda yadda. Just what about your life is not pagan? Do tell?

I suppose that you celebrate Passover. Do you follow Scripture for that?