Tithing

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(07-21-2009 02:17 PM)Marcus64 Wrote:  Hi!

I am still having such a hard time dealing with the fact that tithing is being taught as scriptural support for the Pastor. I was previously in a Oneness Pentecostal church that taught this false doctrine. My wife is still in the church and still believes it to be true. That would be fine, but the fact is that we cannot afford to have her pay 10% of her gross income every week. We are having serious automobile problems and can't even afford to get them taken care of, yet she still believes that she needs to give tithes every week regardless. It is taught that in Micah God is going to "curse" those who "rob" Him of the tithes. It is also taught that Paul said that he (and all of God's called , meaning Pastors) should be able to "live from the gospel" (can't remember which book or verse) meaning that they should not have to work secular jobs because the tithing is mainly to support them and take care of their needs (housing cost, utilities, etc,)
Sorry, I am venting a little. It is just frustrating to see that we are having finincial issues and even though her Pastor knows this, he tells her to "keep being faithful in giving your tithes and God will bless you for it" even if it means not being able to pay your bills. She is totally sold on the idea and won't hear any arguments against it or even look at scripture that clearly shows that the way they present it is terribly wrong. Please pray for us. Thanks for letting me vent. Have a great day!

God Bless,

Mark

Hi Mark,

Glad your login finally worked.

We know that if something is right before God, it doesn't contradict the scriptures. So if you cannot pay your bills, and other needs, then to force the tithe, or any other giving, violates the following.

1Ti 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

It becomes a horrible witness when believers don't take care of their own business, paying bills, and simply putting food on the table. etc.. What a shame it brings on our Lord, when this money grab keeps a family in financial bondage and a under such a burden. That is not what God intended.

How can anyone pray and thank God for taking care of all needs, when He has indeed provided but it is being misdirected to others. Further, a wife is under the authority of her husband--not the pastor. He is out fo line overriding what you have determined is necessary for your family. And she has missed her calling as a wife concerning submission to her OWN husband--not someone else's husband aka the pastor...

Ephesians 5:20-28 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; 21. Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. 22. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 25. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26. That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27. That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28. So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

That pastor is no shepherd of any sheep. He overturns and rejects these Scriptures. If he didn't he would be saying it's your business, between you and your wife, and all gviing is as God leads, as He provides all we have.