Are tongues a sign of the Holy Spirit?

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(02-03-2009 07:37 PM)Vic Wrote:  Peaches, can you tell me where in the Scriptures it says that people on this earth will speak a heavenly language?

What do you think the purpose for this 'heavenly language' is, if it is in fact "heavenly"? How would we know if it is heavenly and of the Holy Spirit if we can't understand what is said?

If a person were speaking a foreign earthly language that he did not know no interpretation would be needed, for the foreigner to whom this miraculous communication was aimed would know what it was and be stunned by having a non russian speaker speaking to him praising God in perfect Russian (for instance).

But ST Paul said regarding order in church let a person give a tongue one or at the most two or three at a time, and then the interpretation, one at a time I Cor 14:37.

So clearly if an interpretation is to be given the tongue is of an angelic kind, for a foreign language would not need one.

Hence tongues of angels.

Now there has been much nonsense in the pentecostal movement over this one. But I am not about to reject tongue speaking in principle just because of abuse by these people. (my church was pentecostal baptist, that miugh tsound strange but this is New Zeael;and in the 80's. American eccelesiological definitions simply do not apply here

Also. having something of an ability for languages ands a musicians ear, I think i can guess by the syntax and sound made that it is a language and not just carnal jibberish.

shamala shamala babababa shamala bababa, ive heard this one time and time again. pure jibberish by someone making up something at a subconscious level.

the purpose of a heavenly language? St Paul said when he prayed in tongues he edified himself (I Cor 14:4), and that when one prophecied one edified the church.

self edification is recommended here, and clearly he was not praying alone in known human languages that he did not speak.

He also thanked God that he prayed in tongues more than they did. So the cessationist doctrine is not applicable here