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02-11-2009, 08:34 PM
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Purim
I am trying to find some information on Purim. There is very little in the book of Esther, which is the origin of the festival that is observed in Judaism, and now also in Messianic Judaism/Hebrew Roots. I found this description on the net and wondered what others thought
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02-12-2009, 12:13 PM
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RE: Purim
Purim is recorded in the the book of Esther in the Scriptures and was focused on the Jewish people and states clearly concerning the remembrance of Purim, in Esther 9:26-32, "The Jews ordained, and took upon them," and "as they had decreed for themselves...".
It originally was viewed as non-religious and in an article "Purim", written by Kaufmann Kohler and Henry Malter for the Jewish Encyclopeidia.com Quote:"...Aside from the much-mooted question whether Purim is of Jewish or of heathen origin, it is certain that, as it appears in the Book of Esther, the festival is altogether devoid of religious spirit—an anomaly in Jewish religious history. This is due to the worldly spirit of the Book of Esther. The only religious allusions therein are the mention of fasting in iv. 16 and ix. 31, and perhaps the expression of confidence in the deliverance of Israel in iv. 14. This secular character has on the whole been most prominent in this festival at all times. Like Ḥanukkah, it has never been universally considered a religious holy day, in spite of the fact that it is designated by the term "yom-ṭob" (Esth. ix. 19, 22.). Accordingly business transactions and even manual labor are allowed on Purim, although in certain places restrictions have beenimposed on work (Shulḥan 'Aruk, Oraḥ Ḥayyim, 696). From the article Legend of Hanukkah> Quote:"... In Rabbi Hyam Maccoby’s, Revolution in Judaea, and as discussed in the article, To Embrace Hebrew Roots: Part II : The Bible & The Talmud, he noted that: From the Wisdom of Kabbalah newsletter and their online site kabbalah.info, Purim is discussed in the article The Inner Purim: Quote:"Purim – the holiday of opposites – joy vs. grief, concealment vs. disclosure, Mordechay vs. Haman, genocide vs. redemption... As we can see, purim has religious and mystical meaning to those practicing Judaism. The question would be: Why are those who claim to believe the New Testament and Jesus Christ, involving themselves in these things? ![]() endnotes: 1 http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.j...3&letter=P 2. http://www.seekgod.ca/legend.htm 3. http://www.kabbalah.info/engkab/holidays..._purim.htm Vic SeekGod.ca 3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. |
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02-14-2009, 10:02 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2009 10:04 PM by sheep wrecked.)
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RE: Purim
Thanx for all the information
Lots of good stuff Back in the day, when I was just getting into Hebrew Roots, I encountered my first Purim. Tradition [Talmudic] called for those who celebrate to dress up as their favorite character for the festivites - it did not have to be a Biblical one, but anything connected with anyone Jewish. If I remember, a couple of women showed up dressed as Barbara Streisand When I look back on it, it all had the appearance of a glorified "helloween" party ![]() ![]() ![]() The "celebrations" included reading the story of Esther. When the reader came to the name "Mordechai", everyone was supposed to cheer and clap. When the reader came to the name "Haman", we all booed and hissed our disapproval. At the time, I thought it was all great fun, with lots of goodies to eat after wards, like: Hamantashen - a triangular-shaped, poppy seed filled pastry. The name was intentionally distorted to "Hamantashan" which means "Haman's pockets" in Yiddish. Some say that Haman wore a three-cornered hat, and that is why the pocket of dough is triangular. In Hebrew, the pastry is called "Oznei Haman" which means Haman's ears. This name may have come from the midrash which says that when Haman entered the King's treasury, he was bent over with shame and humiliation (literally with clipped ears). Mishloach Manot (literally "sending of portions") is another Purim food tradition. These are baskets filled with cakes, cookies, nuts, fruits and other treats given to neighbors, friends, and especially the needy. Hamantashen is often the centerpiece of these food baskets. Seudat Purim - It is traditional to have a Purim Seudah (feast) on Purim day. At this meal, some serve an especially long, braided challah (in memory of the rope used to hang Haman), soup with kreplach (triangular shaped in memory of Haman's hat), and turkey (in memory of King Ahasuerus's reign from India ("Hodu") to Ethiopia and of his foolishness). Others have a vegetarian meal since Esther ate as a vegetarian in order to keep kosher in the King's Palace. Of course, for dessert there is hamantashen. information taken from: http://judaism.about.com/od/purim/a/purimfood.htm Looking back on it now, I see that it's not Biblical at all. All of those traditions are Rabbinic and I wonder, too, what all this has to do with our relationship with Jesus Christ? :anyone:
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When I look back on it, it all had the appearance of a glorified "helloween" party 


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