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Shem Tov or Shem Tob Matthew--The Hebrew Matthew
12-29-2008, 07:50 PM
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RE: Shem Tov or Shem Tob Matthew--The Hebrew Matthew
Continuing Response to Carl Re; List of Scholars

Ernest Renan, The Life of Jesus, pp. 90, 92.

Ernest Renan (1823-1892). His Life of Jesus appeared in 1863 and his life of Jesus followed the unhistorical gospel of John which prompted Albert Schweitzer to comment "There is scarcely any other work on the subject which so abounds in lapses of bad taste . . . It is Christian art in the worst sense of the term . . . There is insincerity in the book from beginning to end."
http://www.infidels.org/library/historic...jesus.html

"...According to Renan, the raising of Lazarus was a trick, planned by the subject of the pretended miracle with the aid of Martha and Mary...The story of his resurrection a day or two later was started by the hallucinations of a frenzied devotee, Mary of Magdala. A woman's love and folly had given to the world a risen God!.."

".... Jesus was ignorant of the very name of Buddha, of Zoroaster, and of Plato; he had read no Greek book, no Buddhist Sudra, nevertheless there was in him more than one element, which, without his suspecting it, came from Buddhism, Parseeism, or from the Greek wisdom. All this was done through secret channels and by that kind of sympathy which exists among the various portions of humanity. .... To show that the religion founded by Jesus was the natural consequence of that which had gone before ....

...Is it more just to say that Jesus owes all to Judaism, and that his greatness is only that of the Jewish people? No one is more disposed than myself to place high this unique people, whose particular gift seems to have been to contain in its midst the extremes of good and evil. No doubt, Jesus proceeded from Judaism; but he proceeded from it as Socrates proceeded from the schools of the Sophists, . ... ...

...IT is well known that the appearance of 'The Life of Jesus' was the signal for an outburst of orthodox indignation against the man who dared to reduce Jesus from a Divinity to a human being...

"...That which Renan regarded as certain in the life of Jesus may be stated in a few lines. He existed. His home was Nazareth in Galilee. His preaching had a powerful charm for the multitude. His aphorisms made a deep impression on his followers. Peter and John were his principal disciples. He excited the hatred of the orthodox Jews, who arraigned him before Pontius Pilate, then Procurator of Judoed, under whom he was crucified. It was believed that, after two or three days, he had risen from the dead. Beyond this all is doubtful. .... Little reliance can be placed on the Gospel statements on these points,...

Hugh J. Schonfield, An Old Hebrew Text of St. Matthew's Gospel, (1927) p. 7.

During the 1960’s, Hugh J. Schonfield created quite a stir when he published a best-selling book entitled The Passover Plot. The cover of the book briefly explains that the book is a “new interpretation of the life and death of Jesus.”[1] In reality, The Passover Plot is a bold denial of much of Jesus’ life and the circumstances of His death, burial, and resurrection. Naturally, many Christians protested the book while atheists and skeptics praised it.

Schonfield identified himself as a Jew on the first page of the book.[2] So it should come as no surprise to the reader that he would deny the New Testament and its teachings concerning Jesus Christ.

Dr. Albert Schweitzer, The Quest of the Historical Jesus, p. 275.

Schweitzer concluded that Jesus died a deluded prophet of a supernatural Kingdom of God that never broke into history.

Schweitzer identified Paul as the one who solved the dilemma created for Christians by the death of Jesus and the non-appearance of the Kingdom of God that he proclaimed by means of a Christ mysticism that became central to Christian belief and experience. http://people.bu.edu/wwildman/bce/schweitzer.htm

Schweitzer denied Christ http://www.mcmaster.ca/mjtm/2-51.htm

R. B. Y. Scott, The Original Language of the Apocalypse, entirety.

Scott was part of the neo orthodoxy movement; was on the faculty of Princeton as was Metzger.

That concept >The Bible is said to contain within it an inspired witness, but it is a mistake to directly identify Scripture as the Word of God; Jesus, the person, is the Word of God. The Bible can become the Word of God only when God chooses to use it to reveal himself. Therefore, the actual text and words of Scripture are not identified as the Word of God. Rather, it is an instrument to communicate and witness to the true Word, Jesus. Neo-Orthodoxy accepts higher criticism of the Scriptures but believes exegesis must move beyond mere historical inquiries.

Prof. Charles C. Torrey, Documents of the Primitive Church, entirety. Also, Our Translated Gospels, entirety.

"Torrey’s Islāmic studies are represented by The Mohammedan Conquest of Egypt and North Africa (1901), based on the Arabic work of Ibn ʿAbd
al-Hakam, of which he subsequently published an edition (1922), and by The Jewish Foundation of Islam (1933). ... In The Translations Made from the Original Aramaic Gospels (1912), The Four Gospels: A New Translation (1933), and Our Translated Gospels (1936), Torrey held that the four Gospels were Greek translations from Aramaic originals. The posthumous Apocalypse of John (1958) argues that Revelation was a translation of an Aramaic original written in ad 68..."

**** Revelation was written about 95 ad.


Torrey studied at Bowdoin (Maine) College and Andover (Mass.) Theological Seminary and in Europe. He taught Semitic languages at Andover (1892–1900) and Yale (1900–32), and was founder and first director (1900–01) of the American School of Archaeology (later renamed the American School of Oriental Research) at Jerusalem."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Cutler_Torrey
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi...ler-Torrey

9 In his Documents of the Primitive Church (1941), pp. 149-144, C. C. Torrey has a chapter on “The Language and Date of the Apocalypse”, in which he gives a detailed argument that the Greek of the Apocalypse is a most literal translation of an Aramaic original.

Torrey promoted Islam as an influence of Israel's theology.http://books.google.com/books?id=_ScS1MjUzdYC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA74&ots=TIedtah2ef&dq=Charles+Cutler+Torrey+biography&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html

Dr. James Scott Trimm, The semitic Origin of the New Testament, entirety.

http://www.seekgod.ca/topichrministries.htm#james

and for his statements concerning adultery etc >

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_...sage/14317

Max Wiolcox, The Semitism of Acts (1965), entirety.

***Spelled wrong----http://www.jstor.org/pss/543415 [b]should be Max Wilcox

uses the mishneh and explores the seminitisms in the NT; he is used to promote a semitic NT

F. Zimmerman, The Aramaic Origin of the Four Gospels, entirety.

***as the name of his book implies--he's an aramaic primacist, not Hebrew.

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