The Other Gospel of John Hagee

[LindaR]

Not sure if this the appropriate place for this topic. If it's not, please move it.

Is anyone here familiar with Dual Covenant Theology?

Here's the first paragraph from an article I found on the Personal Freedom Outreach website. It is an article by G. Richard Fisher called "The Other Gospel of John Hagee"

Quote:Most people who see and hear the Rev. John C. Hagee are impressed. He is rotund, strident, authoritative (and could well pass for Rush Limbaugh’s older and more serious brother). His delivery alone gives the impression of one who really knows what he is talking about. However, careful evaluation of the teachings of Hagee, pastor at the San Antonio-based Cornerstone Church, reveals false teaching and a defective view of a basic and essential issue regarding salvation and the Gospel. Hagee preaches another way of salvation for the Jew, which is in direct violation of Paul’s warnings in Galatians 1:6-9.

This theological concept, which has many forms, is primarily referred to as the “Two Covenant” or “Dual Covenant” theory.

I'm wondering how popular this "Dual Covenant Theology" is.

[sheep wrecked]

(03-31-2009 09:17 PM)LindaR Wrote:  Not sure if this the appropriate place for this topic. If it's not, please move it.

Is anyone here familiar with Dual Covenant Theology?

Here's the first paragraph from an article I found on the Personal Freedom Outreach website. It is an article by G. Richard Fisher called "The Other Gospel of John Hagee"

Quote:Most people who see and hear the Rev. John C. Hagee are impressed. He is rotund, strident, authoritative (and could well pass for Rush Limbaugh’s older and more serious brother). His delivery alone gives the impression of one who really knows what he is talking about. However, careful evaluation of the teachings of Hagee, pastor at the San Antonio-based Cornerstone Church, reveals false teaching and a defective view of a basic and essential issue regarding salvation and the Gospel. Hagee preaches another way of salvation for the Jew, which is in direct violation of Paul’s warnings in Galatians 1:6-9.

This theological concept, which has many forms, is primarily referred to as the “Two Covenant” or “Dual Covenant” theory.

I'm wondering how popular this "Dual Covenant Theology" is.

I would say it's pretty popular. A flat out promotion of a dual covenant is of course denied, but the subtle teachings do in fact support it.

Messianicism is the perfect venue for pushing the dual covenant, in my opinion.

Messianicism with its doctrine that we are grafted into Israel and therefore must keep Torah, is promoting a dual covenant. It really says that by keeping Torah, one is saved. Although Messianics state categorically that keeping Torah is not a salvation issue, it IS. Because they also hammer the fact that those who do not follow Torah are not the bride of Christ. It's circular reasoning at best and a terrible deception.

My worth ........

[Vic]

Hey

I was going to say that about Messianic beliefs. You typed it before I could.

So, to your comments,

[sheep wrecked]

(04-01-2009 12:41 PM)Vic Wrote:  Hey

I was going to say that about Messianic beliefs. You typed it before I could.

So, to your comments,

Does that make us twins? Watch out world ............ it's double trouble

[LindaR]

Okay you "twins"...thanks for the info and the humor. I'm sure glad that the lady who led me to the Lord 35 years ago didn't believe that nonsense that Dual Covenantism teaches!

[sheep wrecked]

I thought I would give the link to the youtube in which John Hagee denies that Jesus is the Messiah. For those who doubt his "agenda", this makes it pretty clear. I was surprised to find it yet, many of the copies of this youtube have been taken down by Mr Hagee - no duh

it's only a minute long - a promotion for his book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rJxQQUgUbw

[LindaR]

I knew that John Hagee was off-base, but this short little youtube shows that he is more than off-base, he is a heretic!

[finney]

Jn 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

That should put paid to any notions that our Lord did not claim to be the Messiah.

finney

[Emjesown]

(05-04-2009 04:10 AM)finney Wrote:  Jn 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

That should put paid to any notions that our Lord did not claim to be the Messiah.

finney

I am sorry if i understand you wrong

The woman is talking about the messiah, being called Christ
and then Jesus sais I am He!!!

Is t n that as much as saying "I am the Messiah"?

EMJE

[finney]

I am sorry if i understand you wrong

The woman is talking about the messiah, being called Christ
and then Jesus sais I am He!!!

Is t n that as much as saying "I am the Messiah"?

EMJE
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No need for sorrow. Yeah, that's what he was saying, flat out and plain as the nose on your face. How somebody with Hagee's time in the Bible could either mis-read, forget, ignore or not know the content of that encounter gets right by me. Anybody know how he spins that one so it doesn't interfere with his "In Defense of Israel" book and "Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah" proclamation?
finney

PS How do you get the little white quote box to work and why do I need to resubscribe to receive email notifications every time I post to the same thread that I subscribed to receive email notifications from already (I was trying to make that as convuluted as possible but it actually worked out)? Thx and if the answers're already posted somwhere under "How to make this thing work" or whatever just aim me, K?