Jesus: Son of Joseph or Son of God?

[Ben Masada]

(05-12-2009 04:04 PM)Vic Wrote:  

Quote:Many wish to eliminate the deity of Jesus Christ, some in subtle ways and some blatantly. Many try to focus on Joseph being Jesus' father.

Jesus was Jewish, and according to his Faith, which was Judaism, there is no such a thing as the Greek Mythology of a son of God. It is much better to have him as a son of Joseph's than to leave him at the mercy of agnostics who are only to ready to assign him a Roman as a father. Rapes of young ladies in the First Century by the Riomans was a daily picture.

[quote]Luk 4:22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?

As you can see, Jesus' conteporaries knew he was a son of Joseph's.

Quote:Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

What else do you need? Even Philip, one of his disciples recognized him as a son of Joseph's.

Quote:Joh 6:42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

Even his disciples knew Jesus was a son of Joseph's. Why should we make a big deal of it?

Quote:Mat 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

These are interpolations by the Hellenistic writers of the gospels, who wrote about 50+ years after Jesus had been gone.

Quote:Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

That's anoher Hellenistic writer who needed to deify the Pauline doctrine that Jesus was Christ.

Quote:Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The son of God here must be interpreted according to Exodus 4:22,23, when God said, "Israel is My son. So, let My son go that he may serve me." and about everlasting life, this is a Greek idea of the Hellenistic gospel writer John.

Quote:What would be the reason that makes someone think Christians should use the writings and beliefs of those who reject Jesus Christ and the New Testament?

If you do think so, you cannot use the only Bible that Jesus used to refer to as the Word of God, because it does not acknowledge Jesus as Christ, the Messiah or son of God.