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Jade · 01-01-2010, 12:44 AM

(05-17-2009 02:42 PM)Vic Wrote: This is part of the passage relating to the time of the Gentiles being fulfilled.

Luke 21:19-24 In your patience possess ye your souls. 20. And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

So, What does it mean?

Lord's Blessing to All:

My goodness, I can't believe that in 2 days we will start a new year. When I was less mature, I was always in a hurry to do this and that, what a short attention span I had, and time seemed to d drag. But now, wow, when I became re-born and a new creature in Christ, their aren't enough hours in the day!

Walking with the Lord Jesus is so exciting, He has added such a newness and adventure to my life, at times I want to just stop and soak it all in! Thank you Lord for your grace and the Cross, there is soooo much freedom. Why was I afraid that coming to Christ and asking for forgiveness of my sins meant that I would have to give up something whatever it was at that time, how stupid cuz I wasted those years worry about nothing!! The Good Lord has shown how much more I have gained and so much more in Him than I would ever image for myself! What a GREAT GOD we serve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (back to the topic)

I agree with Sheepwrecked regarding the destruction of temple in AD 70 and Jersaulem. As for Luke 24 (b), 'until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled, I think the Lord is speaking of the Church. Romans 11:24-36 tells us that 'God has hardened Israels until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in'. I Cor.1,1:18-27, Jews seek signs, a stumbling block, Greeks foolishness, but we preach Christ, and God has chosed the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise. Gal. Chapter 4, in the fullness of time God sent forth His Son to redeem those who were of the law, that we might receive adoption; Abrahams 2 sons one according to the flesh, bondage, Jerusalem with many children. Issac was the child of the promise, the New Jerusalem, ( verse 29) But as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. Col. 1:14 -20, 26 - 28, mystery of Christ revealed to the saints. 2 Thess. 2: 1-9 Day of the Lord does not come until there is a falling away first. Furthermore, I think that verse 4 ' who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called Gods or that is worshiped so that he sits as God in the temple of God showing himself that he is God', is the church, and can be cross referenced to Rev. 17: 9 -18., war against the Lamb and those who are with Him.

Chapter 11 of Rev. are both history and future events and they comprise of OT prophecies concerning Christ birth, redemption , and salvation, similar to the 'mystery' that Paul's speak's about in Gal. Chapter 4. I think Heb 13:11 - 14, can be referenced here as well because it states [b][u] beasts whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priests for sin, are burned outside the gate.

As a side note the future witnesses in Rev. 11:3 might be someone similar to Also Dan. Chapter 9 I think are both past and future, that being the fulfillment of Christ and the Cross and revealing of Antichrist but I would set this in stone because I'm still I'm still studying!

Hope this makes sense, should anyone think I am off base, or have questions, please let me know!

Happy New Year and Maranatha!