What's it mean?
07-11-2010, 08:33 PM (This post was last modified: 07-11-2010 08:40 PM by Rose of Shushan.)
RE: What's it mean?
Quote:One thing that is so important to remember and be mindful of--is that many prophecies have multiple fulfillments.
I have heard this statement before
Would you be able to show examples from Scripture of where a prophecy given by God has been fulfilled twice but at different times.
Once something has been fulfilled and come to pass, then I cannot understand how people can say it will come to pass again.
Quote:For example, the time period of 3 and 1/2 years is a prophetic period that repeats in Biblical history and future prophecy. There was a 3 and 1/2 year time period during the work of the prophet Elijah, in which there was no dew nor rain, John the Baptist had a 3 and 1/2 year ministry, the Messiah's ministry here on earth was 3 and 1/2 years, John, the Revelator, speaks of the woman fleeing into the wilderness for 1260 days, that is 3 and 1/2 years, the beast has power for that same time period that God's people flee to the wilderness, spoken of as 42 months, which is 3 and 1/2 years again.
All those 3 and a half year periods are different things not based on one prophecy that then repeats. We don't really know how long the ministries of Jesus and John the Baptist were for sure.
What the above have in common is that even if they occurred in 3 and a half year periods they are not multiple fulfillments but coincidences that they are all three and a half years.
So some things in Scripture occur in times of 3 and a half years.How is it double fulfilment that Elijah shut up rain for 3 and a half years and that Messiah's ministry was 3 and a half years? What prophecies are being fulfilled that cover those two and the other scenarios simultaneously that you mentioned in the above paragraph?
Quote:Likewise, Daniel's prophetic period of 2300 days has more than one fulfillment, beginning with the going forth of the commandiment to "restore and build Jerusalem" in 457 BCE in this first fulfillment. The "times of the Jews" ended at the culmination of the first 70 weeks (prophetic time-a day for a year in this fulfillment) of this 2300 day period. As this period of 2300 days pointed to the time of the cleansing of the sanctuary, it must end on a Day of Atonement as that was the day that the sanctuary was cleansed.
If Daniel's period of 2300 days was fulfilled by the coming of Christ then how can it be fulfilled once again? Are we all to go back in time and scenarios repeat?That is impossible. The sanctuary was already cleansed by Jesus so there is no future Day of Atonement as the atonement that happened 2000 years ago does not need to be repeated.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Rom 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Heb 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
Heb 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Most worryingly you then say further down
Quote:The government of Jordan resealed the entrance to these tombs and posted guards to prevent any further investigation of the site. This event marks the end of the seventy weeks which were allotted to the Gentile churches. (The laodicean Church was spewed out)
But JOHNN Jesus already fulfilled that 2000 years ago.So what has that verse got to do with Jordan resealing tombs 2000 years later.
How does the resealing of entrances to tombs mark the end of seventy weeks that culminate in end of sins,reconciliation for iniquity and everlasting righteousness.
What Jesus obtained for us doesn’t need to be repeated ,it is fulfilled once and for all as the verses I posted above show.Below are some more
Heb 10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Heb 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
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