Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
01-07-2009, 04:11 PM
RE: Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
Quote:One cannot perform the commandment in the law to swear by His name and also Keep this commandment of Jesus to not swear at all, one themselves has to choose here between the two that I see, Jephthah's daughter also coming to mind.
Malawk I cannot find a command that says that we have to swear by anything or even where people are commanded to make a vow.
What is clear is that there people could make a vow ,if they so wished, but bearing in mind that once made, if they failed to carry it out then it would be sin.
In the Mosaic law we see that
Lev 19:11 You shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
Lev 19:12 And you shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shall you profane the name of your God: I am the LORD.
Deu 23:21 When you shall vow a vow unto the LORD your God, you shall not delay to pay it: for the LORD your God will surely require it of you; and it would be sin to you.
Deu 23:22 But if you shall abstain to vow, it shall be no sin to you.
Deu 23:23 That which is gone out from your lips you shall keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as you have vowed unto the LORD your God, which you have promised with your mouth.
So Jesus acknowledges what the Mosaic law commanded
Mat 5:33 Again, you have heard that it has been said by them of old time, You shall not perjure yourself, but shall perform unto the Lord your oaths:
But then He says
Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mat 5:36 Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can not make one hair white or black.
Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these comes from evil.
Malawk,so the law doesn’t command us to swear as a commandment that everyone must do,notice the "when" in the Deut verse up there. It made allowance for the fact that men would need to show their trustworthyness with some sort of a formal arrangement and an appeal to the highest power ie God to be a witness.It doesnt seem to me that this would be a case where one is forced to choose between obeying Moses or Jesus in this case
In the New Covenant though,Jesus says swearing is unacceptable.
Quote:No, here currently I am inclined to follow Jesus words, I see Jesus here knowing our frailties and knowing that our mouths pass checks our bodies cannot cash so to speak, and also Jesus is Glorifying the Father and His Holiness having us think twice before we swear by Him or even His earth or even our own bodies which He Himself made.
So Malawk ,here you follow Jesus words.Does that mean on others you follow Moses? That is interesting, I wonder what criteria you use to determine which to follow and when.
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