Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
01-07-2009, 11:23 PM
RE: Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
Quote: Greg, if you don't keep the law of Moses, nor do you advocate that it must be kept and it is in fact not in force and not part of the New Covenant--would you please make that clear statement?
This again is a loaded question Vic, but I'll try and answer it for you, when you say "law of Moses" here I am guessing that you mean the law of Moses in its entirity in its full and as to if I keep it all entirely of course the question is no.
Do I advocate the keeping of the law of Moses in its entirity (I believe this is what you mean) then the answer is no again.
Partially yes on both of these though, one cannot help but advocate parts of the law of Moses since Jesus Himself quotes from it to all believers.
Quote:As Malawk, I am familiar with you from Messianic Apologetic, and also Paltalk. I saw you there myself. I am somewhat familiar with some of the company you keep there, including those who openly despise Christians. Are you there protesting those beliefs, Malawk?
Messianic Appologetic I am still recieving emails from but haven't posted there in years if at all its been so long, paltalk though I currently frequent and am on thier right now as typing this.
Vic , maybe you could share what company it is I keep on paltalk since I go to different rooms some pro-torah, and some just christian rooms I don't have a set room I "sit under".
On paltalk though I've spoken for christians keeping more of the torah than some give them credit for like the wieghtier matters of the law and them (to whom it applies) "walking more humbly before God" then some who proffess the keeping of torah but I've also spoken against the Rcc mormonism jws islam, and I've also spoken against some of the anomianism in the church also but have also contended strongly with antimissionaries about Jesus being the Messiah.
Quote:So---are your continual statements re the law, concerning Ephraim, the sheet vision not including animals and similar, suggesting you are not only advocating keeping the mosaic law--but you attempt to keep it? It not only looks like a duck, it sounds like one Greg. And if you attempt to keep it Greg, we've been through the verses regarding that--to not keep it all places you under the curse of the law
Attempt is true that I do and in some parts yes but not the totality of it.
Quote:Now if I am inaccurate in your advocating keeping the law, then all you need to do is state you take the Christian view of the NT, the New Covenant and Christ and doubt nothing in it, and do not advocate the Hebrew Roots view or Messianic view which presents itself as law bound--not all but many.
From what I know of british Israelism I will reject but I am not totally keyed up on the ins and out of that teaching, but the lost or scattered tribes I definatly see in scripture both old and new testaments (james 1 to whom he wrote his letter to).
I do reject anti-semtism openly knowing Christ came for all people Jew and Gentile , but I won't reject the law totally knowing Christ did advocate in keeping it at least in part, Paul also in places as you know speaking favourably of the law.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
btw Vic what is the "Christian" view of the NT New Covenant and Christ you are reffering to, RCC or protestant, preterist or futurist, Trinitarian Oneness or Unitarian , Calvinist or Armenist, the church is and has replaced Israel or they are distinct one from another (acts 1 romans 11)
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