Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?

[Ne'arYah]

(04-29-2011 03:46 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote:  

Quote:So now all of the sudden, you’re telling me that Genesis 9 is restricting the people from eating other foods Yahuah (God) created. Yet in the passages above you’re telling me that God has given the people the right to eat anything because nothing that goes in the body defiles them. That makes no sense, it sounds good, but it does not harmonies with the truth, it’s an outright contradiction. Either they can eat whatever as you say they can through the release of the law through passages like Acts and Mark or they can’t through Gen 9.

At this point I don’t even know how to answer you because you’ve gone back and forth.

I'm sorry if I was confusing in my answer.In Genesis 9 the prohibition is against blood.This prohibition is also present in the Sinai Covenant but other foods are added to the prohibition.In the New Covenant the blood avoidance still remains but the other dietary commands given at Sinai removed.
I don't see why avoiding blood should be a contradiction of what Christ said about nothing that enters a man defiles him because the erason we are given for not eating blood is not that it makes us unclean or defiled but because the life is in the blood.It is a prohibition that seems to stand regardless of other commands pertaining to food.
You said that either they can eat what they like through the release of the Law or that they can't through Genesis 9 but why should it be all ro nothing? The release of the Law removes the dietary restrictions pertaining to clean and unclean.Hoever can God not now,in His New Covenant establish the dietary laws that he wishes? And if God wants to retain the blood prohibition that has been with us since the time of Genesis who are we to argue otherwise?

Rose, I appreciate you trying to explain your view on this, but it still doesn’t add up to the totality of the Bible. I know as well as you, there has always been one law for all Yahuah’s (God’s) people

The same law will apply to both the native and the foreigner who resides among you."

(Exodus 12:49)

With this being said, we just came from Acts 10 establishing the fact that Peter vision did not permit him to eat anything against the laws provided in Leviticus chapter 11.Even if you disagree, I think we can agree that Peter eats nothing of the sort. Now if Peter was true to his word from Acts chapter 10 &11. Then we find ourselves stuck with breaking the golden rule I supplied above (Exodus 12:49). They all followed one rule, it seems as if you are now telling me that they didn’t… It almost sounds like you’re saying that the gentiles were called to keep a different law than the Yisra’el (Israel). I’m not sure what angle you’re taking on this, but if you’re trying to say that the gentiles were given a completely different set of rules to follow, then I’m still not understanding. Acts 15:9 says that he (Yahuah/God) made “no distinction between them and us.” I think this is confusing a bit because your stretching the text beyond its meaning.

Bottom line is simply this, if Yahuah (GOD) intended for Peter to eat meat that would have been the end goal and message from the dream. However, not only do we see his dream revealing itself as something different altogether, but we also see him verifying his dream for us, which gives us no right to add to what the spirit revealed to him. Peter said it was a dream meant to warn him to now accept the gentile openly etc…


You asked someone else why did Yahusha (Jesus) come?

He came to bring Yisra’el (Israel) back to its position in Torah. The good news was not for the church, but it was for all those who had transgressed the Torah through there sinful ways (tribes under Ephraim). Which ironically places us at the heart as to why those rules were mentioned in Acts 15 in the first place. His blood was the only way Yahuah (God) could use to clean the slate. Not only then, but also forevermore, that his chosen people and all who would join them can come to him freely. He had to come to redeem those that had fallen from the 1st covenant i.e., the reason why we call it the new covenant and why most that believe which are from Hebrew origin call it the renewed covenant.


As always you can have the last word on the issue.

Shalom!