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Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
05-06-2011, 07:59 AM
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RE: Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
Rose,

Firstly, I apologize about thinking you were a guy. No excuses needed. I mess up, I fess up.

Shall I explain why you thought chadesh was the word for 'renew' the adjective?
You looked up in the concordance 'renew'. What passage did you find?

Eichah/Lamentations 5.21
hashivenu Hashem elekha vnashuv [vnashuvah] chadesh yamenu k'kedem:

I have said that mechadesh is the verb. Why then does it say here, chadesh, not mechadesh?
I will give you a hint: medaber is the word we use to say in present, "I speak, you speak, etc." We don't say dober, we say medaber. However, if I tell someone 'speak with me' we say 'daber iti.' Thus, in this passage in eichah,
it is the command form of mechadesh.

likewise, we see in 1 samuel 11.14:

vayomer shmuel el haam lekhu vnelkha hagilgal unchadesh sham hameluckah:
And said Shmuel to the people, come [literally 'go', similar to Abram it says 'lekh', or to a woman you would say lekhi...modern hebrew 'boi'] and we will go to gilgal and we will renew there the kingdom.

why unchadesh
u- and
nechadesh- we will renew, the verb mechadesh, the mem drops in favor of the nun for the 'we' person.

Then, you jump to a modern hebrew dictionary:
mechudeshet adj

I say mechudeshet is a verb/adverb...and I use the premise that the form indicates such...and the example I give is 'at mekudeshet li' 'you are sanctified to me', which I would hope that you could see that sanctified, here, is not an adjective.
mechudeshet has the same form [I know it is not the same word]. Thus, I draw the parallel.
However, we look up this form in the dictionary, and it says adj. Why?
I have a copy of the dictionary rav milon. It is great. It has sentences that use the word in it. However, the mechudeshet form isn't written in a sentence as an adj, but hamechudeshet. When one adds a heh before a word, almost any verb can technically become 'an adj.' Why? because the heh before a word can make it say, "One who does (fill in the blank)" thus when one adds it to another word, it technically becomes an adjective/modifier of the noun, even though the form isn't an adjective form.

Anyway. We'll stick to the topics, and the contextual aspects. hehe

Be well.
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RE: Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food? - Benny - 05-06-2011 07:59 AM
RE: Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food? - Inquisitor1231 - 06-03-2011, 08:10 PM
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