Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
05-11-2011, 05:13 PM
RE: Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food?
Nearyah, I think that's enough personal attacks against Rose. You are the one twisting what is said and trying to make it into a confusing mess to fit your beliefs.
Now please hear this:
Jesus, when He walked the earth, pointed people to loving God and observing the law as given by God through Moses to Israel. Simultaneously He began to teach the Law of CHrist aside from the Sinai Covenant, which is what you seem unable to comprehend. So please pay attention and don't try to twist what is said to conform to your beliefs. Suspend your confusion and beliefs and just listen.
The examples Rose gave like---an eye for an eye as found in the Law of Moses, was counteracted by Christ's commandment on that topic. UNtil Christ died, that's what was taking place. And please notice what Moses said concerning Him:
Deu 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Notice--God said He would be speaking exactly what God commanded Him to speak, And then states the result of not listening to Him. So where Jesus commanded something different than what Moses had said--such as the eye for an eye example---what did God say through Moses ? God commanded it. And you are to listen Christ.
When He died and rose again, the New Covenant was fully enacted, the old Sinai covenant becoming obsolete. Because of the 'better promises' given through Christ. That is, forgiveness of sins and eternal life and salvation for those who believed--Jews and Gentiles--through the salvation of God, Jesus Christ. As promised in the Scriptures. He was the given New Covenant --as proimised in the Scriptures. Salvation Provided by God Himself-as promised in the Scriptures.
When the disciples were to lay the foundation of the church, teaching the doctrines of the New Covenant, they needed to understand that no longer were they--Jews--bound to the Sinai covenant, nor were the --Gentiles-- to be compelled to keep the Sinai covenant which was to Israel in the first place..
Instead the separation caused by that specific covenant to Israel was removed and all become one in CHrist. Righteousness of CHrist without the law, which was of the flesh.
Therefore, just as Peter and Paul and others demonstrated, they no longer were bound to the Mosaic Law but the commandments of Christ. That is, the commandments of God, separate and distinct from the law of Moses.
Each is individually saved by God's grace, by faith in Christ, that He was indeed the promised Messiah and salvation of God. That He alone provided the way to the Father. That there is no other sacrifice to be given ever again for sin. That all the shadows and types and prophecies in the law and the prophets and psalms regarding Christ were indeed fulfilled.
What we see in the NT is the proclamation of those truths plus the doctrine of how to live for Christ. And it does not entail keeping the Sinai covenant. Rather, we see that those who belong to Christ are not separated by race, or food/clean or unclean. For as Peter was shown and showed in his vision and Paul repeatedly taught---there is nothing unclean in and of itself. That all things that were unclean under the law--were now made clean by God--people because of Christ and His sacrifice and then indwelling Holy Spirit in all believers; and all food --good for all when received with thanksgiving--to those who believe HIm and know the truth.
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 *****For every creature of God is good,**** and nothing to be refused,***8 if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 ***For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. ***
1Ti 4:6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
When James and all the other leadership decreed that it was 'SUBVERTING THE SOULS" to teach that Gentiles were to keep the law of Moses---when he said clearly they had never given that commandment-----it shows that James and the other leadership already knew that they were not bound to keeping of the Mosaic law. They already understood that the Truth of the Gospel meant that those things were indeed nailed to the cross---and the scriptures have been repeatedly posted on these things which you reject as truth.
True believers have the freedom to eat or not eat things. THey are making those choices, and it has nothing to do with keeping or rather, the attempt to keep the law of Moses. THey are not living to that, but to Jesus Christ. As Peter showed when "LIVING" in the same manner as the Gentiles and NOT Living the same AS WERE THE JEWS.--meaning the traditional way of keeping the Law, before Christ died.
Meaning---Peter lived in the manner normal and common to Gentiles, not observing any of the clean or unclean restrictions imposed on Israel/Jews while under the Sinai covenant. Even though he was a Jew. And it was hypocrisy to pretend he wasn't when the Jews who were in doctrinal error came around, and he tried to hide that was what he was about. .
Instead---as all the apostles and those they taught learned----that whoever they were with and were sharing Christ with, they understood the freedom they had was bound to the love of Christ and love of others. And even though they had complete freedom and liberty regarding all the Mosaic laws which had made Israel distinct and separate; to eat or not eat, and to be with or not be with others, what they did in Christ was always out of love and compassion for those they were sharing Him with. They were to put others first before their own freedom and liberty in the Truth of the Gospel.
These foundational things you need to get a handle on, Nearyah, because unless you do grasp them, you not only bring confusion to yourself, but to those you attempt to teach; and you are trying to teach things you neither know or understand. And God is not the author of confusion.
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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