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07-20-2009, 01:56 AM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2009 01:58 AM by Strefanash.)
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I think one of the first things people need to realize in order to get free from Apostate Christendom, is that they should take the words of Jesus Christ and the Apostles very, very seriously. Yes, read your Bibles and OBEY IT without regard for what man thinks

Stref: and you think your efforts constitute obedience to the Word of God. How hard have you tried to obey, and what do you do with contrarty impulsers within you, regardles of what other people think? Consider carefully, for is you repress them, as is the standard, you are still walking in the flesh and living by the will of the flesh.

Pharisaism was very serious about obedience and the word of God, but it too, stemming from the will of the flesh, was godless religion. The very word pharisee comes from an old persian word meaning separate. so they too were concerned about being separate.

So become zealous about separation and you are more likely to become a pharisee. amd complicagte your burden of sin. Take it from someone who has been there

As for the word separating us, the letter kills. it also exposes my utterly contrary attitudes to holy separation. it does not separate me, and all my efforts might do is make me a religous fanatic so hardened to the gentle quiet voice which says "REST IN ME" that we are in dire, dire danger of an even worse form of apostasy than what you oppose

you are perfect? But he said BE YE PERFECT. HE also said LOVE ONE ANOTHER and if you cannot do that then your talk about obedience is so much heated flesh. HE did not say "try to love" he said to "love", all from a positionb of resting in the Lord. if we find it hard then we dont love eiuther himn or our neighbour, so of what value our efforts?

Oh, yes, his commands are not burdensome (though the Law be impossible), and his yoke is easy for his burden is light. and he offers rest to those who come to him.

Obeying the words in the book, and taking them VERY VERY SERIOUSLY is the starting point of every legalist. THis is where the Pharisees started. and you know something? You wil have to repent of this seriousness at some point, if the Spirit gets hold of you (if you have not driven him off in your legalistic zeal), for you will discover that our very righteousness is filthy rags and a sin to be repented of, and our seriousness will be seen to be will of the flesh, worthless, and indeed a hindrance as it was to the devout galatians

there is more than one form of godless religion, or christianity without christ, as you rifghtly callit. easy believism is clearly godless, but what i see you here advocating is very difficult believism.

THE WAY OUT of apostate religion is to cry to the Lord for mercy, to seek the free gift of repentance, for if we are in apostate religion we get out of it by admitting that we are apostate too.

you will try to say i will not hear the law of God. I have heard the thunder of Sinai so long it almost made me deaf to the whisper of the Spirit.

Take a closer look at the Law and see that your efforts will not be obedience to it, for just as the Law justified no one (the lesson of Romans) so the LAw sanctified no one, either (the lesson, though not in those exact words, of Galatians
Put it this way, Did i call my pastor "reverend" or "pastor"?

Neither. He was Murray, that was his name.

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Pastor Or Reverend??? - Mark - 07-09-2009, 01:40 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-09-2009, 04:21 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-09-2009, 04:39 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-09-2009, 04:56 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-09-2009, 05:25 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - SheitlQueen - 07-09-2009, 06:43 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-09-2009, 06:52 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-10-2009, 08:53 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Pilgrim - 07-18-2009, 08:38 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-19-2009, 11:24 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-18-2009, 09:13 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-19-2009, 11:37 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Strefanash - 07-20-2009 01:56 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-20-2009, 08:18 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-20-2009, 02:01 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-20-2009, 03:07 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-20-2009, 05:52 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-22-2009, 03:25 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-22-2009, 08:59 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Emjesown - 07-22-2009, 08:30 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-22-2009, 12:21 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-23-2009, 01:42 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-23-2009, 09:12 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-23-2009, 01:19 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-23-2009, 03:19 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-23-2009, 07:31 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-23-2009, 10:05 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-23-2009, 11:28 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-24-2009, 08:58 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-24-2009, 07:11 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 03:37 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 03:36 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 07:21 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-24-2009, 07:25 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 07:30 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-24-2009, 07:38 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 08:19 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-24-2009, 08:25 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 08:27 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-24-2009, 08:44 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-24-2009, 09:26 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-24-2009, 08:46 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-25-2009, 01:50 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Mark - 07-25-2009, 08:43 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-25-2009, 09:07 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-25-2009, 02:27 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-25-2009, 03:33 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-25-2009, 06:04 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-25-2009, 09:25 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-25-2009, 10:50 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-25-2009, 11:30 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-26-2009, 02:16 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-26-2009, 07:02 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-26-2009, 07:45 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-26-2009, 07:23 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-26-2009, 07:52 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-26-2009, 08:23 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-26-2009, 09:34 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-26-2009, 11:50 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-27-2009, 01:17 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-27-2009, 01:25 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 04:46 AM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 12:40 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 01:04 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 02:25 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-27-2009, 02:35 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 03:00 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 02:42 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-27-2009, 03:41 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 03:07 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 03:19 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Emjesown - 07-27-2009, 03:34 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 03:36 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 04:03 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 04:16 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 04:44 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-27-2009, 05:18 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 05:19 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-27-2009, 05:26 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 05:28 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - sheep wrecked - 07-27-2009, 06:05 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 06:25 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - heb13-13 - 07-27-2009, 06:31 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 07:55 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 08:05 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 08:22 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - pastor_chris - 07-27-2009, 08:24 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Vic - 07-27-2009, 09:05 PM
RE: Pastor Or Reverend??? - Mary - 08-23-2009, 01:33 AM
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