Pastor Or Reverend???

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(07-27-2009 02:25 PM)pastor_chris Wrote:  I am still waiting for a coherent description of a Bishop/pastor/elder. A strongs listing isnt going to cut it. Words only have real meaning in the context of the passage they are in. Stop avoiding the issue. It is quite clear that you know you are wrong otherwise you would give an intelligible description of the role of those who served as Bishops/elders/overseers/pastors etc.

The lack of a willingness to deal with this head on proves that you who reject the ministry are flat wrong, wrong, wrong. Mhy points about church history were totally ignored. This is called DENIAL! Comical! You folks really have no idea what you are talking about. I am not sure whether I should laugh or cry.

Rick,

I am not going to dignify the post about pastoral compensation with a reponse. How silly. You create a straw man and then you set it on fire. That my friend is just wrong. When you want to actually discuss what it really means to be a minister let me know. Maybe we can talk.

Quote:A strongs listing isnt going to cut it. Words only have real meaning in the context of the passage they are in.

That was Thayer's if you had bothered to read it Chris. And verses were provided showing context. And the church history information was also addressed.

Absolutley no one has avoided the issues Chris. Pastor and reverend were defined at the beginning of this thread. Everyone who has contributed has dialogued and answered questions put to them. You do not. You are contentious and attempting to be controlling. You have taken off topic--three threads because you can't get it through your head that we understand what the scriptures say about the ones being quoted. No one has denied them. No one has avoided using them.

You however have totally ignored posts and questions directed to you--in this thread, the compensation thread and the tithing thread. Get over yourself, and quit thinking you are or have to be in control or right. Answer the questions and observations by other posters with some semblence of respect and self control and without insulting, assaulting, name calling, falsely accusing or playing the victim.

You want to discuss something here---answer what has been give to YOU. Stop ignoring all the posts and questions to YOU. Quit demanding things from others you aren't willing to give to them. And start behaving like someone who knows Jesus Christ. You are a Guest here...nothing more and nothing less.

It's up to you Chris, what happens next.