Hooked On Porn

[Mary]

(11-08-2009 12:35 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote:  

(11-08-2009 03:43 AM)Mary Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 12:52 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote:  This is going to sound really odd, but is it a sin to film a realistic sex doll and sell the pictures online? I have one of these dolls and was thinking of doing this to pay my bills. It's an inanimate object, so does this fall under looking at a woman lustfully? I am not being facetious.

And I'm going to be mean/bold and call you on this. I think you are being facetious. Some time back you posted that you were considering filming yourself pornographically to pay your bills... then you repented and a friend helped you out. You gave the impression that you believed God had been faithful to you and that you would trust Him in future. Do I need to say that God is not mocked? Stop it. I have no sympathy for your games. Recall the verse I quoted to you from Isaiah 57 - the sledgehammer part. "there is no peace for the wicked"

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Think what you want and be as mean as you want. I don't answer to you, since this is not your site. I would not ask a facetious question on this site. I have known Vic for at least five years and have too much respect for her to play around on this site. She knows I am constantly tempted by the occult and by illicit sex and she has talked me out of sinning many, many times. She's kept me from killing myself, in fact she's one of the only reasons I am still alive. I have a lot of sex toys from when I was selling them on eBay. My conscience didn't feel right about doing this with the dolls, and whatever is not of faith is sin, so I ASKED HERE FIRST before doing something that I thought might be okay but my conscience didn't. Next you'll probably be saying that my cousin didn't rape me and that I am making that up/being facetious about it.

If you'll read the actual post I made, I never said "you were considering filming yourself pornographically to pay your bills... then you repented and a friend helped you out. You gave the impression that you believed God had been faithful to you and that you would trust Him in future." My roommate gave me the money to pay my bills for a month. Why shouldn't I say that it came from God? That was last month. This month I have Southern California Edison demanding a thousand dollars for a bill on my former house, where I haven't lived since April. I am on disability and don't make a thousand dollars a month. On Thursday my car quit on me, essentially grounding me. This stuff happens. I may be getting chastised, and I thank God for chastising me, because He wouldn't chastise me if He had given up on me.

"You have no time for my games?" Give me a break. You don't run this forum, and this is the only time I have EVER been treated badly by a regular here. I was satisfied by Rose of Shushan's reply. Sometimes I want to do something but my conscience bugs me about it, so I will ask here because a lot of people have had similar experiences and they are MUCH more grounded in the Word than I am.

"You have no time for my games?" I think I'd better stay out of this forum and just stick to the main site, if I get treated this way for asking a question. Have fun, Mary.

I'm not having fun and I don't like being mean. I'm sorry to hurt you more with my words. It was not my intention to hurt you, although I knew you would be hurt. Sometimes love is tough, and the message is hard to take.
Why do you still have the sex toys in your possession if you really want to get rid of sin?

[Vic]

(11-08-2009 12:35 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote:  

(11-08-2009 03:43 AM)Mary Wrote:  

(11-07-2009 12:52 PM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote:  This is going to sound really odd, but is it a sin to film a realistic sex doll and sell the pictures online? I have one of these dolls and was thinking of doing this to pay my bills. It's an inanimate object, so does this fall under looking at a woman lustfully? I am not being facetious.

And I'm going to be mean/bold and call you on this. I think you are being facetious. Some time back you posted that you were considering filming yourself pornographically to pay your bills... then you repented and a friend helped you out. You gave the impression that you believed God had been faithful to you and that you would trust Him in future. Do I need to say that God is not mocked? Stop it. I have no sympathy for your games. Recall the verse I quoted to you from Isaiah 57 - the sledgehammer part. "there is no peace for the wicked"

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Think what you want and be as mean as you want. I don't answer to you, since this is not your site. I would not ask a facetious question on this site. I have known Vic for at least five years and have too much respect for her to play around on this site. She knows I am constantly tempted by the occult and by illicit sex and she has talked me out of sinning many, many times. She's kept me from killing myself, in fact she's one of the only reasons I am still alive. I have a lot of sex toys from when I was selling them on eBay. My conscience didn't feel right about doing this with the dolls, and whatever is not of faith is sin, so I ASKED HERE FIRST before doing something that I thought might be okay but my conscience didn't. Next you'll probably be saying that my cousin didn't rape me and that I am making that up/being facetious about it.

If you'll read the actual post I made, I never said "you were considering filming yourself pornographically to pay your bills... then you repented and a friend helped you out. You gave the impression that you believed God had been faithful to you and that you would trust Him in future." My roommate gave me the money to pay my bills for a month. Why shouldn't I say that it came from God? That was last month. This month I have Southern California Edison demanding a thousand dollars for a bill on my former house, where I haven't lived since April. I am on disability and don't make a thousand dollars a month. On Thursday my car quit on me, essentially grounding me. This stuff happens. I may be getting chastised, and I thank God for chastising me, because He wouldn't chastise me if He had given up on me.

"You have no time for my games?" Give me a break. You don't run this forum, and this is the only time I have EVER been treated badly by a regular here. I was satisfied by Rose of Shushan's reply. Sometimes I want to do something but my conscience bugs me about it, so I will ask here because a lot of people have had similar experiences and they are MUCH more grounded in the Word than I am.

"You have no time for my games?" I think I'd better stay out of this forum and just stick to the main site, if I get treated this way for asking a question. Have fun, Mary.

Hey there, YYZ,

You know you need to keep reading and asking questions. People that don't know your history or your problems probably would think you are being facetious and I think Mary was merely trying to challenge you to look to Christ and the Scriptures. So please don't be upset. I've said some challenging things to you in the past, and you've always stopped and thought about it--so please accept her challenge as the same idea.

I do know and understand the incredible struggles you have and have had, and I know that you do desire to live for Christ, even in the midst of heavy temptation. And that is why you ask the questions, which answers might seem obvious to mature believers. But you know that God has kept you from so much, and yes, you have made choices of disobedience.--and obedience. But you know what, every baby step you take means you are learning to trust Christ. And if you stumble after one step, Jesus said He would not let you go. We are more than conquerors in Christ Jesus and it's about resting in Him and letting Him bring even our imaginations into obedience.

Consider these verses, and try to apply them to each situation you are tempted with:

Romans 8:10-14 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. 12. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Colossians 3:5-8 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6. For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7. In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8. But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

The biggest thing you need to do-and we have talked of this so often, is to keep reading the Word and pray daily.

You can't do it alone, or in your own strength. You can't do it without that relationship with Jesus Christ. Be encouraged and don't stop asking questions or being on the forum. You have much to offer, and we are to bear each other's burdens. I believe someday you will be taking big steps, but for now if it's little steps, that's ok too.

Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

[Vic]

(11-08-2009 01:59 AM)Strefanash Wrote:  

(08-05-2009 05:03 PM)Vic Wrote:  Yes you read correctly.

[color=#1E90FF][b]So, if someone is hooked on porn in any form, can they be living for Christ?

They cant. But then I do not claim to be living for christ. I say this as I am hooked on porn myself,. it shows i never loved the lord or believed him, I am certainly an idolator as covetousness is idolatry and porn fans the flames of covetousness.

THis is fact. I see no need to be worried about it now, for the worry was pointless and got me worse, not better. Like into a madhouse then on welfare for 12 years

But i am not saved by lving for Him, I am saved by his living for me. If i could repent myself into being perfect I would, but God will not have it. It does not work that way.

Willpower is totally useless and in this matter I have given up. Look at Romans 7, and i know for a fact God will not aid my willpower in any way, for willpower is an attempt to work not for the will but against it, if we are accountable for those evil impulses

but let us consider more than porn. you have a bad temper? then you walk in the flesh and are not living for christ either. ARE you greedy or miserly? likewise. I am all these things too

Do you have a relationship with His spirit whereby he is leading you to repent? If not we are lost anyway, but living for him is the result of his grace not the means to it.

I never did live for Him, He makes it clear my attempts were blasphemy and hypocrisy, and He still keeps on keeping on.

it is not about cleaning ourselves up for the Lord, it is about His cleansing us by his taking the initiative and leading us to repentance in one on one relationship. If the former is true then i am dead and damned.

If you think that being saved is about our living for Him you have lost track of what the gospel is, for it does not depend on him who wills or runs but on Him who has the mercy.

Stref, since you abide that the voice you listen to is Christ, and it is teaching you all you need, including no need for studying the Word of God because you said it tells you that what it says is Scriptural and all you need to know---what's the voice say about you being hooked on porn?

If you are being wooed into repentance, and you repeatedly admit you are carnal, reject obedience to God, have fits or rage, are hooked on porn and who knows what, but you and God...how is listening to that voice working for you so far?

Did it tell you not to worry about it, eventually you might repent of it, but for now, be carnal, be hooked on porn and held captive by sin and be happy? Because the voice is talking to you...it's ok? And has been for the last 30 plus years and you can continue like that for the next 30 plus years, because you have the voice to tell you it's ok? You have the special relationship with the voice that makes willingly living in sin ok?

Hebrews 4:6-12 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7. Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Isa 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.