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11-03-2009, 03:55 PM (This post was last modified: 11-03-2009 03:57 PM by sheep wrecked.)
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Swine Flu aka H1N1
Now that the swine flu is the "disease of the year", I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss. It's more "politically correct" name is "H1N1" - but as a Dr recently told my daughter - it is NOT the swine flu Smilies-34787

There is much divided thought on the topic - like why the govt is focussed on it - to the point of causing extreme paranoia and fear - and now that the vaccine is finally accessible, people are fighting over it. What is so different about the swine flu from other flu bugs? Is it an over reaction? Is it a conspiracy? Why hasn't Vit D been pushed and promoted as preventing it rather than take a vaccine that has not been tested and leaves many side effects including death and extreme future health problems? Sign0082

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11-03-2009, 06:40 PM
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I have been inundated with emails about H1N1. Ideas of all sorts. This particular email is...well...different. So I thought I would share it.

Subject: Onions fight flu virus

My Dad had the swine flu in 1919 and nearly died. Grandma used a drop of Eucalyptus oil on sugar and steamed him. It saved his life while 100's died in Saskatchewan. We were raised on it and never got colds or the flu.

We use it for a week in the fall to get it into our systems.

Forget the spicy candles and herbs to freshen the smell in your house! Try onions!

OK, it is true. After reading this you will think that I have really lost it. However, this is a true story.

In 1919 when the flu killed 40 million people there was this Doctor who visited the many farmers to see if he could help them combat the flu. Many of the farmers and their families had contracted it and many died.

The Doctor came upon this one farmer and to his surprise, everyone was very healthy. When the Doctor asked what the farmer was doing that was different the wife replied that she had placed an unpeeled onion in a dish in the rooms of the home, (probably only two rooms back then). The doctor couldn’t believe it and asked if he could have one of the onions and place it under the microscope. She gave him one and when he did this, he did find the flu virus in the onion. It obviously absorbed the bacteria, therefore, keeping the family healthy.

I heard this story from my hairdresser in AZ. She said that several years ago many of her employees were coming down with the flu and so were many of her customers. The next year she placed several bowls with onions around in her shop. To her surprise, none of her staff got sick. It must work. (And no, she is not in the onion business.)

The moral of the story is, buy some onions and place them in bowls around your home. If you work at a desk, place one or two in your office or under your desk or even on top somewhere. Try it and see what happens. We did it last year and we never got the flu.

If this helps you and your loved ones from getting sick, all the better.
If you do get the flu, it just might be a milder case. Whatever, what have you to lose? Just a few bucks on onions!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ahem. Just a few minor points to ponder. When it was said the onion absorbed the bacteria....the flu is a virus...and this flu isn't any worse than any other. Seasonal flus affect more people than this one. People need to think. 89

As far as the onion filtering out the flu---unless someone coughed and sneezed directly onto the onion...it's not likely going to be too helpful except to make one also have runny eyes. Flu virus's are spread through coughing and sneezing -infected saliva and mucous -are spewn into the air and infect others directly in contact. Other ways are touching things that have been contaminated by others with their coughing and sneezing and then touch their mouths or mucous membranes. Hence the need to use common sense and good hygene---wash your hands! and avoid touching public things as much as possible, where people normally touch- Smiley-surround -like escalator handrails, public washroom doorhandles, etc.. If you must, wash your hands with soap and water, and avoid touching your face unless you are clean.2c2

Best case scenario for onions all over your house is they will likely keep people out of your home and hence if you stay home ---you won't be exposed to any flu viruses. Biggrin

As with so many things that get circulated by email, including actual viruses, Snopes has an article dedicated to Onions fighting the flu, which also dispels the notion that doing the above onion ritual can accomplish anything to combat the flu.
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http://www.snopes.com/medical/swineflu/onion.asp

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11-03-2009, 06:45 PM (This post was last modified: 11-03-2009 06:46 PM by sheep wrecked.)
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True confessions Biggrin

I have to admit when I read the email about onions diverting the swine flu, my immediate response was:



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07-08-2010, 02:05 AM
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I appreciate that you have choose the topic of H1N1 over here.Well I think we all should pay attention for the vaccination of this flu.I think that senior citizens,kids and pregnant women should get higher priority.
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07-08-2010, 11:23 AM (This post was last modified: 07-08-2010 11:24 AM by sheep wrecked.)
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(07-08-2010 02:05 AM)sallsbury Wrote:  I appreciate that you have choose the topic of H1N1 over here.Well I think we all should pay attention for the vaccination of this flu.I think that senior citizens,kids and pregnant women should get higher priority.

It was a hoax. It never was an epidemic. The vaccination is worse than the flu itself. It does not even have the live virus unless you get the nose vaccination. The shot is just a lot of poisonous chemicals which cause paralysis and death, and was completely unnecessary. The vaccination was never even tested before it was marketed and passed around at the cost of life and quality of life for many. What a terrible commentary on this travesty of history and all for money.

Quote:Here is the article that states the ingredients in both the flu and swine flu vaccines. I got this article from a friend you should never take one person’s opinion at face value. You should always do your own research and find the facts for yourself.

The Truth about the Flu Shot
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

“By 1853, Parliament began passing laws to make the untested vaccine compulsory throughout the British Empire. Other countries of Europe followed suit. Once the economic implications of compulsory vaccinations were realized, few dared to disagree. Then, as now, the media were controlled by the vaccine manufacturers and the government, who stood to make huge money from the sale of these spurious vaccines.”… Tim O’Shea, D.C.

1. What’s in the regular flu shot?

Egg proteins: including avian contaminant viruses

Gelatin: known to cause allergic reactions and anaphylaxis are usually associated with sensitivity to egg or gelatin

Polysorbate 80 (Tween80™): can cause severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis

Formaldehyde: known carcinogen

Triton X100: a strong detergent

Sucrose: table sugar

Resin: known to cause allergic reactions

Gentamycin: an antibiotic

Thimerosal: mercury is still in multidose vials

2. Do flu shots work?

Not in babies: In a review of more than 51 studies involving more than 294,000 children it was found there was “no evidence that injecting children 6-24 months of age with a flu shot was any more effective than placebo. In children over 2 yrs, it was only effective 33% of the time in preventing the flu. Reference: Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy children.” The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. 2 (2008).

Not in children with asthma: A study 800 children with asthma, where one half were vaccinated and the other half did not receive the influenza vaccine. The two groups were compared with respect to clinic visits, emergency department (ED) visits, and hospitalizations for asthma. CONCLUSION: This study failed to provide evidence that the influenza vaccine prevents pediatric asthma exacerbations.

Reference: “Effectiveness of influenza vaccine for the prevention of asthma exacerbations.” Christly, C. et al. Arch Dis Child. 2004 Aug;89(8):734-5.

Not in children with asthma (2): “The inactivated flu vaccine, Flumist, does not prevent influenza-related hospitalizations in children, especially the ones with asthma…In fact, children who get the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than children who do not get the vaccine.” Reference: The American Thoracic Society’s 105th International Conference, May 15-20, 2009, San Diego.

Not in adults: In a review of 48 reports including more than 66,000 adults, “Vaccination of healthy adults only reduced risk of influenza by 6% and reduced the number of missed work days by less than one day (0.16) days. It did not change the number of people needing to go to hospital or take time off work.” Reference: “Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults.” The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.

1(2006).

Not in the Elderly: In a review of 64 studies in 98 flu seasons, For elderly living in nursing homes, flu shots were non-significant for preventing the flu. For elderly living in the community, vaccines were not (significantly) effective against influenza, ILI or pneumonia.

Reference: “Vaccines for preventing influenza in the elderly.” The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews. 3(2006).

3. What about the new Swine Flu shot?

A new report from a WHO advisory group predicts that global production of vaccine for the novel H1N1 influenza virus could be as much as 4.9 billon doses a year, far higher than previous estimates.

The report says that vaccine makers are expected to produce about 780 million doses of seasonal flu vaccine for the northern hemisphere’s 2008-09 flu season for the

June 12 Announcement:

The new H1N1 (swine flu) vaccine is going to be made by Novartis. It will probably be made in PER.C6 cells (human retina cells) and contain MF59, a potentially debilitating adjuvant.

MF-59 is an oil-based adjuvant primarily composed of squalene, Tween 80 and Span85.

All oil adjuvants injected into rats were found toxic. All rats developed an MS-like disease that left them crippled, dragging their paralyzed hindquarters across their cages.

Squalene caused severe arthritis (3 on scale of 4). Squalene in humans at 10-20 ppb (parts per billion) lead to severe immune responses, such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus.

Reference: Kenney, RT. Edleman, R. “Survey of human-use adjuvants.” Expert Review of Vaccines. 2 (2003) p171.

Reference: Matsumoto, Gary. Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That’s Killing Our Soldiers and Why GI’s Are Only the First Victims of this Vaccine. New York: Basic Books. p54.

Federal health officials will probably recommend that most Americans get three flu shots this fall: one regular flu shot and two doses of any vaccine made against the new swine flu strain. Reference: Washington Post, Wednesday, May 6, 2009

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is talking to school superintendents around the country, urging them to spend the summer planning what to do if the government decides it needs their buildings for mass vaccinations and vaccinating kids first. Reference: CBS News, June 12, 2009.

4. Is Mandatory Vaccination Possible?

1946: US Public Health Service was established and EO 9708 (Executive Order) was signed, listing the communicable diseases where quarantines could be used. 1946 and 2003, cholera, diphtheria, TB, typhoid, smallpox, yellow fever, & viral hemorrhagic fevers were added.

April 4, 2003: EO 13295 added SARS to the list.

April 1, 2005: EO 13295 added “Influenza caused by novel or re-emergent influenza viruses that are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic.” EO 13295 also:

The president gave the Sec. of HHS the power to quarantine, his or her discretion.

Sec of HHS has the power to arrange for the “apprehension and examination of persons reasonably thought to be infected.” A cough or a fever could put a person at risk for being quarantined for an extended period of time without recourse.

January 28, 2003: Project BioShield was introduced during Bush’s State of the Union Address. This created permanent and indefinite funding authority to develop “medical countermeasures.”

The NIH was given authority to speed approval of drugs and vaccines. Emergency approval of a “fast tracked” drug and vaccine can be given without the regular course of safety testing.

December 17, 2006: Division E: The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act was added as an addendum to Defense Appropriations Bill HR 2863 at 11:20p on Saturday night, long after House Committee members had signed off on the bill and gone home for the holidays. Section (b)(1) states:

The Sec of HHS can make a determination that a “disease, health condition or threat” constitutes a public health emergency. He or she may then recommend “the manufacture, testing, development, administration, or use of one or more covered counter measures…” A covered countermeasure defined as a “pandemic product, vaccine or drug.”

Division E also provides complete liability protection for all drugs, vaccines or biological products deemed a “covered countermeasure” and used for an outbreak of any kind.

Complete liability protection has been given to drug companies for any product used for any public health emergency declared by Sec of HHS.

Pharma is now protected from all accountability, unless “criminal intent to do harm” can be proven by the injured party. They are protected from liability even if they know the drug will be harmful.

4. What can I do? These are just a few suggestions; please come up with more of your own! Add to this list and spread the word.

Give this information to everyone you know and love.

Contact local city council members about your liberties. You need their support to maintain your right to refuse.

In 2008 the flu shot strain was guessed completely wrong…
pregnant women, babies, and the elderly got zero protection from the Brisbane strain and 25mcgs of deadly Mercury.

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07-11-2010, 10:32 AM
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Swine flu is yet another scare tactic courtesy of the government and (probably) the pharmaceutical industry, like saying "cannabis is a dangerous addictive gateway drug with no medicinal value". Humans are walking disease-storage facilities. The only way to prevent getting some horrible plague from random people is to avoid people as much as possible. (Of course, I already do this, because I can't stand humans as a species. Flamed )

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07-11-2010, 03:31 PM
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(07-11-2010 10:32 AM)YYZ Skinhead Wrote:  Swine flu is yet another scare tactic courtesy of the government and (probably) the pharmaceutical industry, like saying "cannabis is a dangerous addictive gateway drug with no medicinal value". Humans are walking disease-storage facilities. The only way to prevent getting some horrible plague from random people is to avoid people as much as possible. (Of course, I already do this, because I can't stand humans as a species. Flamed )

I can't say I am exactly fond of the human species eitherBiggrin but I really think the body is an awesome immune system. For as much junk that goes around, not everyone is susceptible to it. Last winter one of the kids got the swine flu and we started giving everyone VIT D and no one else got it. And the one who did had a mild case of it. But I tend not to hang around people a lot, not just because of germs, but for other reasons Coffeebath
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