rancherforchrist, aka Chris Evans & Doug Perry & FOTM

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Here's a reply by Doug Perry, and in which Chris Evans was also discussed, to "Freda" concerning marriage, divorce and spiritual marriage from the FOTM site.

Quote:That's not what Ezra 10 says. Show me where in the Bible it says that we are to stay in a ongoing, sinful situation after we have realized what we've done. How is this different than living with someone or doing drugs. You realize you shouldn't, you confess, then you REPENT – you TURN AWAY. God DID do this at times in the Bible, so we know that He is still capable of it. You may disagree, but you don't have BIBLE to back you up. (Show me if I'm wrong.) You misunderstand that marriage is first and foremost a THREE way covenant – for it to be HOLY it must be between us and God. And if He doesn't acknowledge it as a marriage – because it was never His will and He is not obligated to endorse YOUR plans – then there is no divorce in God's eyes (and no violation of His law) because He never honored it in the first place.

...You are mixing and matching laws of Man and laws of God. Again, my assertion is that you are NOT divorcing if God never honored it in the first place. Now, just because you didn't hear Him tell you to marry someone doesn't mean that His hand wasn't on it – it's not an automatic. But Clare herself heard from the Lord that her last marriage was adulterous and that God never honored it. She was told SPECIFICALLY beforehand not to marry John. She lived 21 years in what God said all along was an adulterous affair. Because she didn't get married in church? Because her first husband was alive? NO. Because God told her not to and she did it anyway.

And she left HIM, an unbeliever – and God told her to. I have no doubt. But wouldn't that violate His Word? Shouldn't she stay? How could God tell her to leave?

Because it was never a marriage in the first place.

This generation is hearing God better than any previous. I really believe that He is pouring His Spirit out on all flesh and more and more people are hearing and seeing and having dreams and visions. And more and more people are reporting to me that God specifically and forcefully told them that the person they THOUGHT they were married to according to the laws of Man was NOT their husband (or wife).

...I'm not preaching any of this stuff. I have no videos or writings about it. I'm simply trying to understand something that is beyond what we have previously understood. I don't think God is honoring (acknowledging and submitting to and considering Holy) the laws and covenants of Man nearly as much as we think. Nor is He honoring commitments that we have made that were outside His will in the first place.

Marriage is ONLY holy when it is inside God's will and initiated by Him. Otherwise it is just a tax-savings plan and should be called a civil union or something. I'm not inventing this, I'm just trying to get my head around ALL the dozens and dozens of bits of data – and the things in the Word that don't line up with what you are asserting. Is THIS enough reason to divide the body?

fellowshipofthemartyrs.com/response_to_freda.htm.