Translational Inconsistencies

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(12-22-2008 11:21 PM)Nomad Man Wrote:  Shalom Sheep wrecked:

Quote:Are you saying that these Jewish scholars were of a "western" mind set?

Nomad Man: The Greek language is a "western" language and personally, I don't put to much stock in the LXX.

sheep: However; those were Jewish scholars, not western gentile ones ;) The same Hebrew minded Jewish scholars in Israel like Emanuel Tov, who is an expert in Greek and Hebrew

[quote]btw: I noticed that you used CJ Koster's interpretation of this concept which is found in the ISR:

Nomad Man: Sorry, I am not familiar with CJ Coster and do not know what the ISR is.

sheep: The ISR was listed in my quote as "The Scriptures 98+". You are teaching Hebrew and you are not aware of the ISR? I find that very difficult to believe. It's the version out of South Africa - the one who took on James Trimm's plagiarized Hebrew Roots Version and are selling it as well. It's all over the net - the ISR is one of the most popular Hebrew Roots versions right under the Complete Jewish Bible by David Stern.

Quote:The word me'eh can also mean the seat of emotions. A Jewish definition of heart, mind, and soul are intertwined and inclusive. I am surprised that you did not know this.

Nomad Man: Strong's is a great tool but it is very limited and also views the language from a western perspective. It is not true that each of these words are "the seat of emotion." The word כליה (kilyah) is the kidneys and this is the seat of emotion in Hebraic thought. The heart is the seat of thought (actually the mind), the gut is the seat of the subconscious.

sheep: I did not use Strong's. I used Thayers which is the premiere concordance used by credentialed Hebrew Scholars world wide, as well as chairs of University departments, including Israel.

Please give a source that the kidneys are the seat of emotion in "Hebraic thought" and that the gut is the seat of the subconscious. Hope you forgive me, but that sounds pretty Greek minded to me

Quote:Perhaps you are more westernized than you thought you were

I am the first person to admit that I am a westerner with westernized thought. But, am attempting to learn the Hebraic thought as best as I can with the resources available.

Nomad Man

sheep: I have heard you personally say that you are translating with a Hebraic/eastern mind set making your "translation" closer in thought to the original. Now you say that you are westernized. Which is it?