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Emjesown · 02-09-2009, 10:52 PM

http://members.tripod.com/ebionite/_forum/0000003a.htm

Can someone read this and tell me what you think?

EMJE

***Vic*** · 02-10-2009, 02:34 PM

(02-09-2009 10:52 PM)Emjesown Wrote: http://members.tripod.com/ebionite/_forum/0000003a.htm

Can someone read this and tell me what you think?

EMJE

Hi Emje,

First, traditionally, ebionites, follow Jewish religious law and rites, and reject the Divinity of Jesus Christ. They view Him as Messiah, but according to some sources, they viewed James as head of the church in Jerusalem. It is also suggested they reject all the teachings of Paul, whom they believe was an apostate, which means much of the New Testament is omitted. They attempt or claim to keep the Law of Moses and incorporate some of the NT, which they deem fits their doctrine. We know they cannot keep the whole law and what scriptures say about that, in the OT and in the NT. Sign0138

As a source for Christians following Jesus Christ and the doctrine of the New Testament and understanding the OT and the NT in that light, they cannot be used. 6839

We know that without knowing who Jesus is, God manifest in the flesh, they do not have the Spirit of Christ in them. They have another gospel and another Jesus. Sign0137

Paul warned:

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Galatians 1:6-12 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 10. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Emje, if we have entered into the rest given by God, found only in Jesus Christ, this is how we must view it.

Hebrews 4:1-11 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7. Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.[/b]

The controversy over when the sabbath starts and when a day is and night begins, seems to detract from Christ. When God made/divided day and night, there were no seasons, or evening, dawn, dusk, because He had not made those yet.

When He made the sun, moon and seasons, dusk and dawn and the rest of the time of a 'day' changed. In fact, if I recall, there is only one longest day in the year, and one shortest day; they are the days with the longest period of daylight and shortest period of daylight. An apparent anomaly is that the Sun does not set at its latest on the longest day or at its earliest on the shortest day.

When Jesus said there were twelve hours in a day, we can also assume there are twelve hours in a night. We are to be busy in the day doing the things He called us to, which may take us into the evening or night. And it might mean doing things every day, just as Jesus did, and He was our example as were the apostles. They were about His business, regardless the day or hour. :3942:

If someone wants to set aside a day to specifically worship HIm, that is a choice. For Christians, because the Resurrection happened on the First day of the week, instead of the last day which was the Sabbath, and because of the New Covenant and being New in Christ, for many the worship is on the first day...Sunday, and many call it the Lord's Day for those reasons. It differentiates between the Old Covenant, still observerd by practicing Jews under the Mosaic law, and the New Covenant in Christ celebrated by Christians.

To adhere to the Sabbath for reasons of the Law, ignores the freedom we have in Christ and His bringing in the New Covenant. Who can judge against someone who proclaims Jesus Christ of the New Covenant, instead of trying to have a foot in both the Old and the New, for which there is no Scripture? 3817

Throughout the NT, we see the necessity and concepts of the New Covenant, and Hebrew, Romans and many more scriptures confirm the New and what is expected. And nowhere is the Sabbath of the Old covenant, reiterated to be kept in the NT. That is why we have verses like the following:

Colossians 2:6-17 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7. Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11. In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12. Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17. Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

***Vic*** · (This post was last modified: 06-17-2009 05:32 PM by Vic.)

The following is a merge from the thread Almost afraid to post...

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=344

Started by Truth Seeker who began with:

Almost afraid to post...
Wow! I'm quite new around here and would like to post some of my writings but, I'm concerned after reading some of the other threads that anyone that believes or teaches anything with "HR" will be labeled a heretic!

Be that as it may....I'm going to post one small controversial statement and see how well it goes over.

Sunday is not the Sabbath therefore all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin.

sheep wrecked · (This post was last modified: 06-13-2009 09:47 PM by sheep wrecked.)

(06-13-2009 09:15 PM)Truth Seeker Wrote: Wow! I'm quite new around here and would like to post some of my writings but, I'm concerned after reading some of the other threads that anyone that believes or teaches anything with "HR" will be labeled a heretic!

Be that as it may....I'm going to post one small controversial statement and see how well it goes over.

Sunday is not the Sabbath therefore all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin.

Hi there

If you have read some other other HR threads, you probably noticed that making statements like "Christianity is living in unconfessed sin" ain't gonna go over real well Th_ththink

This is a Christian Forum Bee

Now maybe you were just trying to drum up some dialogue Th_dramaqueensmil

but I have a feeling that you are deeply engrossed in HR and are here to dump your stuff on the table, most of which we have already refuted Busted

So, if you are here to "discuss" versus "teach" that would be cool Th_airplane

otherwise, your stay here will probably be a bit daunting Eyerub

Strefanash · (This post was last modified: 06-13-2009 11:30 PM by Strefanash.)

Well, we are all living in states of unconfessed sin. If we weren't, and God's promise to cleanse us of all unrighteousness on honest confession (there's the rub: it takes divine intervention for us to even honestly confess rather than merely report our sin) were worth anything, we would be manifestly perfect.

So I am long past being thrown by this one.

OF COURSE there is unconfessed sin in my life, my heart is so deceitful that I have only the faintest grasp of what my own sin actually is. That is the way with all of us, therefore it is by God's mercy that I stand- and even here there is likely the sin of hypocrisy and unbelief in my very saying so - but there it is

But one thing: failure to keep Saturday as the sabbath is not one of them, ie one of the sins

Yes, sunday is not the sabbath, but i am free to honour any day i please, or none at all. St Paul said so: "let no man be your judge as regards sabbaths etc"

but let is assume that sabbath keeping really meant saturday. Does the Seventh Day Adventist practice of going to church on Saturday constitute keeping the sabbath?

is forced refraining from activity on saturday sabbath keeping, or merely pretending to keep the sabbath?

If sabbath keeping becomes a work of Law it will be something to boast about, and I have heard adventists boast about the number of Sabbaths they have kept. So what is the point of it? Not that God commands it, because our efforts to obey the commandment do not even touch the surface of the commandment itself, and so it is with legalism throughout

If obedience by willpower against our own impulses were not sin the pharisees, who were past masters at this, would be approved by God not condemned, but if such is sin then it is often all we have got and we are no better than pharisees, though of course, beding moderns, we have no notion of real dedication and zewal- we are mere dabblers.

If you or any other go to church out of this motive, and
I have, the very act of going to church, even on a Saturday if you insist, IS SIN.

For it is written "Who ordered of you this trampling of my Courts?" If we congregate or obey or anything out of mere duty, and not in delight, we are trampling his courts and defiling his Law, making a mockery of it. And this is the irony: it is those most dedicated to obeying God who make the worst mockery of Hisd commandments

Are you suggeseting that the church, christendom, keep ALL the rest of the Law but fall down on the Sabbath?

then you, and certainly the SDA's I have had dealings with, have no notion of the inner nature of sin.

NO ONE keeps the Law. Forced observances of the forms out of presumption fear or pride does not constitute obedience to it, for if it did equal law keeping then it was plain that we were justified by Law.

Given the habits of church attendance, if sanctimonious hypocrites go to a designated place on a saturday or sunday, if they indulge in the malicous gossip that comprises their prayer requests their sermons and their conversation, what difference would it make?

~~LindaR~~ · 06-14-2009, 02:31 AM

(06-13-2009 09:15 PM)Truth Seeker Wrote: Wow! I'm quite new around here and would like to post some of my writings but, I'm concerned after reading some of the other threads that anyone that believes or teaches anything with "HR" will be labeled a heretic!

Be that as it may....I'm going to post one small controversial statement and see how well it goes over.

Sunday is not the Sabbath therefore all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin.

First of all, Sunday has never been, nor will it ever be the Sabbath. The Sabbath was not given to the Church/the Body of Christ, it was given to Israel. Israelites in the land of Israel still keep the sabbath today.

The born again believer is not bound to "keep the Sabbath":

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:14-17)

Jesus Christ IS the Sabbath (which means REST) for every born again Christian. (Hebrews 4) Jesus fulfilled the Sabbath. Christianity was never given the Sabbath....therefore to say that all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin because Sunday is not the Sabbath, is heretical.

Emjesown · 06-14-2009, 04:36 AM

Sunday is not the Sabbath therefore all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin.

That is a rather strong statement!
The firstpart is true tho
Sunday is not the shabbath, not the 7th day .
The word "therefore", is not accurat.
I do believe that the 7th day is set apart by God to point to something.
His rest. Stop working ourselve.
In the OT we see that we can 't earn anything, we can 't please God at fullest.
Everything points to the coming Messiah.
He is the rest promised to us.
In Him we live In Him we rest.
I don t "do" sunday, i remember and honor shabbath still as the day God set apart, to remember us that He is creator.
Not because of Moses, not because of a law,
I don t judge people for whatever day they "keep"......
and i don t want to be judged because i "remember"the creation days and the day God rested!

I see a important meaning in the fact that God tells us, He did set apart a day. God was'n t tired so it had to have another meaning.
I see it as the promised rest that will come, for eternity.
So....looking forward to His rest and His blessings makes the 7th day special to me.

EMJE

~~Truth Seeker~~ · (This post was last modified: 06-14-2009 07:49 AM by Truth Seeker.)

Ok then. Appears I've awakened a few deep thoughts with a mod or 2 and even a mere member such as myself now. I'll try to answer everyone yet I'll need to be brief because as you all know typing in this type of environment can become quite time consuming.

I would much rather speak to you all face to face since this is a bit impersonal. Be that as it may lets proceed...

The first person to post was a mod who stated these lines...

Quote:If you have read some other other HR threads, you probably noticed that making statements like "Christianity is living in unconfessed sin" ain't gonna go over real well Th_ththink This is a Christian Forum Bee

Now maybe you were just trying to drum up some dialogue Th_dramaqueensmil but I have a feeling that you are deeply engrossed in HR and are here to dump your stuff on the table, most of which we have already refuted Busted

So, if you are here to "discuss" versus "teach" that would be cool Th_airplane otherwise, your stay here will probably be a bit daunting EyerubTh_smiley_swordfight2

And my reply is this....

Yes, as I stated I have read some of the other posts. And, of course I realize my statement wouldn't go over "real well". My statement was not intended to offend, but rather to begin as you said, a dialog. I do however understand how anyone that calls themselves a Christian would become a bit, taken back, shall we say. Hold on....everything will be ok. You will soon see that it's no big deal to get the correct day of worship correct!

Yes, you are correct! I am "deeply engrossed". Please allow me to briefly explain. Like you, I was involved with the "messy antics" Judaism but now I'm not. I found out their orgins and who I was supporting in a round about manner. Unlike you though, I went in the complete opposite direction! I refused to go back into Christianity. I saw enough corruption within the 1000 or so different denominations that I knew there must be something better. Something closer to the truth!

So as far as "refuting" HR goes... we shall see. If we all can think logically and put aside any subjective thinking, perhaps....just perhaps....some light will come shining through!

On to the 2nd poster who stated this...

Quote:Yes, sunday is not the sabbath, but i am free to honour any day i please, or none at all. St Paul said so: "let no man be your judge as regards sabbaths etc"

but let is assume that sabbath keeping really meant saturday. Does the Seventh Day Adventist practice of going to church on Saturday constitute keeping the sabbath?

is forced refraining from activity on saturday sabbath keeping, or merely pretending to keep the sabbath?

If sabbath keeping becomes a work of Law it will be something to boast about, and I have heard adventists boast about the number of Sabbaths they have kept. So what is the point of it? Not that God commands it, because our efforts to obey the commandment do not even touch the surface of the commandment itself, and so it is with legalism throughout

If obedience by willpower against our own impulses were not sin the pharisees, who were past masters at this, would be approved by God not condemned, but if such is sin then it is often all we have got and we are no better than pharisees, though of course, beding moderns, we have no notion of real dedication and zewal- we are mere dabblers.

If you or any other go to church out of this motive, and
I have, the very act of going to church, even on a Saturday if you insist, IS SIN.

For it is written "Who ordered of you this trampling of my Courts?" If we congregate or obey or anything out of mere duty, and not in delight, we are trampling his courts and defiling his Law, making a mockery of it. And this is the irony: it is those most dedicated to obeying God who make the worst mockery of Hisd commandments

Are you suggeseting that the church, christendom, keep ALL the rest of the Law but fall down on the Sabbath?

then you, and certainly the SDA's I have had dealings with, have no notion of the inner nature of sin.

NO ONE keeps the Law. Forced observances of the forms out of presumption fear or pride does not constitute obedience to it, for if it did equal law keeping then it was plain that we were justified by Law.

Given the habits of church attendance, if sanctimonious hypocrites go to a designated place on a saturday or sunday, if they indulge in the malicous gossip that comprises their prayer requests their sermons and their conversation, what difference would it make?

Wow...this is a lot to respond to. I'll be brief yet...truthful shall we say?

It never takes long for most to come up with the verse from Collisions. That's ok though. I hung on that same verse for about 20 years myself at one time! Now for a small dose of truth.... Remember now.....we're thinking objectively, not subjectively, right?

Col 2:16 Let no one therefore judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths –
Col 2:17 which are a shadow of what is to come – but the Body of the Messiah.

Consider these facts...
1)Paul 1st mentions meat and drink.
There are no drink regulations in the "law".
2)The kjv added the word "is" to the verse changing what is contrasted.
3)He says they are a "Shadow of what is to come".
Paul is saying let no man judge you, except members of the one body because these festivals and new moons and annual (and weekly) Sabbaths which you had not been keeping, but are at long last now keeping, are shadows of good things to come! Think logically here!

Paul kept the weekly and annual Sabbaths himself. Why would scripture be silent on changing the 4th commandment if it had been done away with? I've got good news for you! It hasn't changed. Paul didn't have the authority to change the law. As a matter of fact he considered the law...

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the Torah of Elohim according to the inward man,

"A delight" and elsewhere "holy and just".

The SDA's are another issue. They have some problems too. But, to answer your question. No.

Ahhhhemmm.

There is to much to adress in the rest of your post for now.

Moving on to the 3rd poster... Ya know....To play it safe and not be to lengthy in this reply, I'' do a follow-up post....

Alrighteee then... Moving on to the 3rd poster....

Quote:First of all, Sunday has never been, nor will it ever be the Sabbath. The Sabbath was not given to the Church/the Body of Christ, it was given to Israel. Israelites in the land of Israel still keep the sabbath today.

The born again believer is not bound to "keep the Sabbath":

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:14-17)

Jesus Christ IS the Sabbath (which means REST) for every born again Christian. (Hebrews 4) Jesus fulfilled the Sabbath. Christianity was never given the Sabbath....therefore to say that all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin because Sunday is not the Sabbath, is heretical.

I beg to differ. Let's check the writings, shall we? The Weekly Sabbath we are addressing was given to "man".

Mar 2:27 And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.

The "born again" believer has not yet been "born again". This is off topic...for now.

The things that are against us is our unconfessed sin. The law is for us. Sin is what was nailed to His crux not the law.

Hebrews 4 tells us this...

Heb 4:4 For somewhere He has said thus about the seventh day, “And Elohim rested on the seventh day from all His works,”
Heb 4:5 and in this again, “If they shall enter into My rest...”
Heb 4:6 Since then it remains for some to enter into it, and those who formerly received the Good News did not enter in because of disobedience,
Heb 4:7 He again defines a certain day, “Today,” saying through Dawiḏ so much later, as it has been said, “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.”

I prefer rather to call it the truth and not "heretical" as you say.

Moving on to the next poster....

Quote:That is a rather strong statement!
The firstpart is true tho
Sunday is not the shabbath, not the 7th day .
The word "therefore", is not accurat.
I do believe that the 7th day is set apart by God to point to something.
His rest. Stop working ourselve.
In the OT we see that we can 't earn anything, we can 't please God at fullest.
Everything points to the coming Messiah.
He is the rest promised to us.
In Him we live In Him we rest.
I don t "do" sunday, i remember and honor shabbath still as the day God set apart, to remember us that He is creator.
Not because of Moses, not because of a law,
I don t judge people for whatever day they "keep"......
and i don t want to be judged because i "remember"the creation days and the day God rested!

I see a important meaning in the fact that God tells us, He did set apart a day. God was'n t tired so it had to have another meaning.
I see it as the promised rest that will come, for eternity.
So....looking forward to His rest and His blessings makes the 7th day special to me.

EMJE

Strong statement, ...or the truth. We must all decide for ourselves.

Your motive for keeping the correct Sabbath is a bit strange. We should keep it because we have a love for His law, not pushing it away as the lawless one to be revealed will do.

As far a "judging" anyone goes....He will do the final judging of the "church", not I. Be that as it may we are instructed to "be instant" in our reply to erroneous lawless teachings....with LOVE!!!!

~~Liberated by Faith~~ · (This post was last modified: 06-14-2009 09:37 AM by Liberated by Faith.)

While it is true that the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath, one must realize who that Sabbath was given to... It was given to those living within Israel's boundaries. It was not given to the rest of mankind. Check your Old Testament. The Sabbath was observed by the Israelites, not anyone else.

In the New Testament, we find Believers after the cross worshipping God on the FIRST day of the week:

Quote:Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

If worship and preaching upon the first day of the week were, as you imply, 'unconfessed sin', then why was not Paul rebuked by the very one who taught him...the Lord Jesus Christ?

Quote:Strong statement, ...or the truth. We must all decide for ourselves.

Your motive for keeping the correct Sabbath is a bit strange. We should keep it because we have a love for His law, not pushing it away as the lawless one to be revealed will do.

Peter, in the Jerusalem Council, pointed out the fact that the Gentile Believers were not to be put under the yoke of the Mosaic Law that not even the Israelite forefathers were able to bear. (Read Acts 15:1-10)

Quote:As far a "judging" anyone goes....He will do the final judging of the "church", not I.

It is obvious you are judging though you state here you are not.

Quote:Be that as it may we are instructed to "be instant" in our reply to erroneous lawless teachings....with LOVE!!!!

Since I have presented the Scripture that states we are not to be put under the yoke of the Mosaic Law, our teachings and beliefs are not erroneous at all, but are in perfect alignment with the written Word of God.

~~LindaR~~ · 06-14-2009, 10:37 AM

(06-14-2009 07:28 AM)Truth Seeker Wrote: Ok then. Appears I've awakened a few deep thoughts with a mod or 2 and even a mere member such as myself now. I'll try to answer everyone yet I'll need to be brief because as you all know typing in this type of environment can become quite time consuming.

I would much rather speak to you all face to face since this is a bit impersonal. Be that as it may lets proceed...
Moving on to the 3rd poster... Ya know....To play it safe and not be to lengthy in this reply, I'' do a follow-up post....
Alrighteee then... Moving on to the 3rd poster....

Quote:First of all, Sunday has never been, nor will it ever be the Sabbath. The Sabbath was not given to the Church/the Body of Christ, it was given to Israel. Israelites in the land of Israel still keep the sabbath today.

The born again believer is not bound to "keep the Sabbath":

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:14-17)

Jesus Christ IS the Sabbath (which means REST) for every born again Christian. (Hebrews 4) Jesus fulfilled the Sabbath. Christianity was never given the Sabbath....therefore to say that all Christianity is living in unconfessed sin because Sunday is not the Sabbath, is heretical.

[quote]I beg to differ. Let's check the writings, shall we? The Weekly Sabbath we are addressing was given to "man".

Mar 2:27 And He said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.

Wrong...God did not give mankind a weekly sabbath....but God did give a "rest" to the children of God. The weekly sabbath (if you want to call it that...but God doesn't) was given specifically to the children of Israel. There is NO mention of a weekly sabbath anywhere in the New Testament...except where Jesus is dialoguing with the Pharisees in the Gospels. The Apostles did not teach that the Body of Christ was bound to "keep the Sabbath".

Quote:The "born again" believer has not yet been "born again". This is off topic...for now.

There is no scripture to back this up.

When a sinner receives new life from God John 3:1-16) he/she is born into God's family (John 1:12-13). This new life is received by trusting Jesus Christ (John 3:7-16; 1:12; 1 John 5:1).

Quote:The things that are against us is our unconfessed sin. The law is for us. Sin is what was nailed to His crux not the law.

Colossians 2:14-17 tells us otherwise....

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:14-17)

Quote:Hebrews 4 tells us this...

Heb 4:4 For somewhere He has said thus about the seventh day, “And Elohim rested on the seventh day from all His works,”
Heb 4:5 and in this again, “If they shall enter into My rest...”
Heb 4:6 Since then it remains for some to enter into it, and those who formerly received the Good News did not enter in because of disobedience,
Heb 4:7 He again defines a certain day, “Today,” saying through Dawiḏ so much later, as it has been said, “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.”

I prefer rather to call it the truth and not "heretical" as you say.

Since you didn't specify which version of the Bible you are using, I'll post the same verses in the KJV:

For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. (Hebrews 4:4-7)

The author (which I believe to be the apostle Paul) of Hebrews tells us that it was because of "unbelief" that we do no enter His rest. His "rest" is salvation! It says absolutely nothing about "keeping the Sabbath" or "keeping the law" in those verses.

In the future, please post the version reference if it is anything other than the KJV.