Keep the Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday & Rest in Christ

[Vic]

malawk Hey there Vic,

[Speaking of the sabbath in particular I cannot think of a passage where Jesus sais for one to keep it specifically, the torah though there are a few places I'm sure you are aware of them...

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever [b Wrote:shall do and teach[/b] [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone

Mar 1:44 And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

...Thanks

Hi Greg, I think we would agree that Jesus had the authority to give new commandments, which He did, when He said things like "it has been said,... but I say unto you"--my paraphrase. We also know that He did in fact change some of the application of the Mosaic law--which we know came down from God. So we know He also had the authority to change it.

Mat 5:27-28
(27) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
(28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Here is an example of changing the Mosaic Law--before He was crucified and the New Covenant enforced.

Joh 8:3-11
(3) And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
(4) They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.(5) Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
(6) This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
(7) So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.(8) And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
(9) And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
(10) When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
(11) She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

No longer could it be that they were judge of sin and then carrying out the sentence. Instead it became a very personal issue, and that was --each of us is guilty and responsible before Him for our own sins. He was transitioning from the sacrficial system to His final sacrfice for all sins, and He had the authority and showed it--that He alone could forgive sins.

So, did anyone break the Mosaic Law? Did the accusers who caught her in the act, break the law by not stoning her, which should have been done? Did Jesus break the Mosaic Law?

Jesus constantly forgave sins--even before He was crucified, and that is not in Torah. But it is in the New Covenant because of Him.

Lev 4:20 And he shall do with the bullock as he did with the bullock for a sin offering, so shall he do with this: and the priest shall make an atonement for them, and it shall be forgiven them

Lev 4:26 And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

2Ch 29:24 And the priests killed them, and they made reconciliation with their blood on the altar, to make an atonement for all Israel: for the king commanded that the burnt offering and the sin offering should be made for all Israel.

Heb 10:1-4
(1) For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
(2) For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
(3) But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
(4) For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. ...Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Heb 10:10-12
(10) By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
(11) And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
(12) But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Everything changed when Christ died for us. But even during His ministry He was showing that God's law encompassed more than what was given to Moses... and we know that because even Abraham obeyed God--and there had been no law given. He was faithful. Every jot and tittle is His law and His words---not just the Mosaic law--His words will never pass away, but we know that Bibles and manuscripts will pass away. We know the Pharisees failed miserably because they added to the law and added burdens that shouldn't have been and they failed to teach the things of God, the things necessary to walk with God--faith, mercy and and His perfect judgment.

You know Greg, there is a far higher expectation of obedience put on believers because of having the Holy Spirit indwelling than what ever could be presented in the law. But it is not a burden, but a joy in living for Him and allowing Him to do His good work through us.

Not sure if I covered everything, so let me know if not.