(11-04-2010 10:12 AM)sheep wrecked Wrote:
(11-03-2010 09:26 PM)resolute Wrote:
Quote:Interesting .... Let me ask you if you feel that WWI and WWII were a hoax perpetuated on the Amercian public?
Since the fall, men have been warriors. It seems to "built in", so what you have described appears to me to be the "fuel" to generate and push forward the agenda, along with money and power. I think the sad thing is that the desire to "fight" [appears to be a "natural" male predisposition] was used and "abused" to further the agenda.
There is nothing that will get a guy to wanna fight more than to dangle the carrot to help the "oppressed" or to become a legal "killer". So I understand the drive and necessity for war. It is a money maker, no doubt about it. I see this more clearly in the conflicts in the middle east and have believed for a long time that it is all about oil - who wants it, who controls is and how to get it - all for the big bucks.
I definitely appreciate your perspectives. They are not new to me in that I have been exposed the last couple of years particularly, to the fact that America was not founded on "God", but on the secret societies that you speak of.
My problem is that I am torn between the knowing and the ability to measure that against what I was taught to believe from a child, to what I experienced at that time in regard to Khrushchev [I was taught that the cold war was a danger to the USA and therefore, he must be stopped or America would become a communist nation]. Then there was WWI and WWII in which grandparents, other relatives and my own father took part believing they were fighting against the threat of Hitler towards USA from German domination.
Throwing into that mix was England, who without America's help would have lost the war and been seized by Hitler. So in my mind, I am trying to sort these things out.
There is also the military at this very moment, where 1000s of men and women are serving in the middle east believing they are protecting people there and keeping the taliban from taking over here. Again, I understand the hype and "programming". But aside from all that, those serving in the military truly believe in what they are doing, as if it is God leading them to serve. And I am speaking of the Christians in this case, to separate them out for the moment.
After what happened with Viet Nam, and the ostracization of the men and women who returned who were booed and denounced, it is almost a relief to see the opposite taking place today. Only because of their personal sacrifice in believing they were doing the right thing.
So how do you resolve these issues? I am torn between anger and grief. I see so many young men and women giving their lives for "usary" and families who are torn apart, losing sons and daughters, husbands and wives, and friends for what they believe is "freedom". It's not like you can say, your loved one just lost his/her life for some political power hungry money making war machine.
There are other parts of this that I will save for later, but from my perspective it is terribly complex. I appreciate your willingness to discuss these things as they weigh heavy on me.
I've been thinking all day about how to respond to your post. You see, most people (and that includes Christians) do not want to think on things such as this. For those that do, I try to be very careful and as gentle as possible with the way that I express myself because as I said before, I don't want to overwhelm anyone. And honestly, the truth IS overwhelming. Things are so much different than you've been taught that you wouldn't believe me if I told you. But I would like to offer a couple of things that I've learned that may help you reconcile your thought processes:
1. The bad guys always try to complicate the simple.
God's truth is so easy that a child can understand it. In this case, He tells us that we are not to kill. The enemy needs to create all sorts of misdirection and obfuscation in order to make something simple seem complicated.
2. The bad guys always try to justify by exception.
It is wrong to kill unless we are under attack by communists or terrorists. Then it is ok to kill.
Necessary evil. The ends justify the means. The greater good.
These tactics are Satanic. 'Buying in' to them leads to all sorts of wrong assumptions. I don't want to pick on you, but in your post you mention Krushchev and threat of communism, for example. Are you aware that the USA is already a communist nation and has been for a long time? Again, I don't want to overwhelm anyone. Unfortunately our school system and media plant very deep roots and it can be tough to break them down. Please, simply consider these 2 concepts and look for them wherever you go. At the end of a week you will be shocked how often you see them.