What's the True Name of God?
04-17-2011, 09:07 PM
RE: What's the True Name of God?
Sarah, You believe you know the 'true name' of God, and that being Yahuah. Despite things like the Leningrad codex--which is what massoretic text is based on, which shows the yeh prefix and which shows name after theophoric name starting with yeh.... The Assyrians weren't exactly entrusted with the keeping of the 'book'. Israel was. That the Assyrians transcribed something as Yaua-for God- that little tidbit of info is propagated from sacred namers, and many HR proponents etc. who need it to be different than what the Massoretes presented.
For your information, Jehu, . 2 Kings 9:14 So Jehu H3058 the son H1121 of Jehoshaphat H3092
Jehu = “Jehovah is He”
1) the king of the northern kingdom Israel who overthrew the dynasty of Omri
2) son of Hanani and an Israelite prophet in the time of Baasha and Jehoshaphat etc..
Jehoshaphat = “Jehovah has judged”
1) son of king Asa and himself king of Judah for 25 years; one of the best, most pious, and prosperous kings of Judah (noun proper masculine)
2) son of Nimshi and father of king Jehu of the northern kingdom of Israel (noun proper masculine)
Discussing Jehu or in Hebrew Yehu and the Assyrians ---
">>>>.....which the Assyrians besieged, but failed, however, to capture. Shalmaneser's soldiers meanwhile wasted and burned cities without number, and carried away great booty.
"In those days", Shalmaneser recorded, "I received tribute from the Tyrians and Sidonians and from Yaua (Jehu) son (successor) of Khumri (Omri)." The following is a translation from a bas relief by Professor Pinches of a passage detailing Jehu's tribute:
"The tribute of Yaua, son of Khumri: silver, gold, a golden cup, golden vases, golden vessels, golden buckets, lead, a staff for the hand of the king (and) sceptres, I received. 2"
The scholarly translator adds, "It is noteworthy that the Assyrian form of the name, Yaua, shows that the unpronounced aleph at the end was at that time sounded,... [Myths of Babylonia and Assyria, by Donald A. MacKenzie > The Hebrews in Assyrian History > http://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/mba/mba23.htm ]
Factually, we see again and again those who wish to change things to what they want them to be, versus what God preserved in the Scriptures. The Samaritans were referenced by a scholar who wrote me after extensive research on this issue. http://www.seekgod.ca/htname.htm
Quote:....the Samaritans, like the traditional Jews, may have substituted another title when they came upon YHWH written in their Scriptures, so as to not speak the Name. While the Jews substituted Adonay when they came across YHWH while reading in the text, the Samaritans may have substituted the title yaphe/yafe (yaw-feh' ~H3303), which means beautiful. This may be where some of the early Greek writers first encountered the name IABE, which is where the scholarly re-construction of Yahweh originated. One modern Samaritan group has stated that the pronunciation of the Divine Name as Yahweh is inaccurate based upon the Samaritan substitution of yaphe/yafe, which was actually their attempt to avoid reading the Divine Name aloud. It should also be noted, that nowhere in the Hebrew Biblical texts is YHWH actually pointed to be read as Yahweh. >>>
You said you get your info about the 'true names' and including about the theophoric names from Strong's. But Strong's does not have yah as a prefix. Again from that article:
Quote:...proper names with the theophoric element of Yah or Yahu incorporated, use it as a suffix or ending, and not as a prefix. The common theophoric prefixes that are found in the Hebrew texts are Yeho, and the truncated form Yo. There are many Biblical Hebrew names that demonstrate these two prefixes. For example, from Strong's Concordance:
From another scholar, converted Jew and Masoretic scholar, Christian Ginsburg, undertook a detailed study of the Masoretic text. He traced the pedigree of the Scriptures and noted how the Jewish guardians protectd the Hebrew text by taking safeguards in order to make sure the Tetragrammaton was not accidentally pronounced at the wrong time or by the wrong people or in the wrong place . There were strict rules under which the Name was to be pronounced, and it was considered the greatest heresy to violate them. Contrary to the idea that the Name of God was not known, it was specifically and regularly used in the Temple and services but was not used outside of that arena. Instead Adonai was used. According to Ginsburg:
"There are, however, a number of compound names in the Bible into the composition of which three out of the four letters of the Incommunicable Name have entered. Moreover, these letters which begin the names in question are actually pointed Jeho, as the Tetragrammaton itself and hence in a pause at the reading of the first part of the name it sounded as if the reader was pronouncing the Ineffable Name. To guard against it an attempt was made by a certain school of redactors of the text to omit the letter He so that the first part of the names in question has been altered from Jeho into Jo ." [Christian Ginsburg, Introduction To the Massoretico-Critical Edition Of The Hebrew Bible, p 369]
Ginsburg used many examples, showing the names, which appear both with and without the He , and which both versions can be found within the Scriptures. Such as: JEHOshaphat > JOshaphat ; JEHOram> JOram ; JEHOhanan > JOhanan ; JEHOseph > JOseph etc.
The first two syllables in those names was pronounced the same way the Name was pronounced, which is why they undertook the task of trying to shorten the theophoric names in the first place. If the Jew responsible for protecting the Hebrew Scriptures did not consider Jehovah to be the correct pronunciation for the 'Ineffable Name", it would have been a total waste of time to have tried to protect it's wrong use in this way.
So Sarah, if you have the true names of God and Jesus, how come all those other names out there claiming the same thing, and are also the precisely exact true names of God and Jesus, including the variations found on nazarite.net and Followers of Yah, sacred name and HR proponents, and I am sure all the myriad of other places you have searched to confirm your personal choice for a name for God that so few others know and that is not found anywhere in the Hebrew Scriptures? Supposing or guessing that it might have been what you want it to be, does not mean it is Truth. The facts and Scripture say otherwise. There will always people who want to change and corrupt the Word of God. Don't let that be you Sarah.
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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