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What's the True Name of God?
04-22-2011, 05:52 PM
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RE: What's the True Name of God?
(04-22-2011 03:53 PM)NearYah Wrote:  If you're correct then I'm curious as to how you would spell the Father's name... Is it Yehweh, or Yahweh? The Yah is the correct form.

Ne'aryah, none of the above. You totally ignored what was given to you.

From post #73 >


From Strong's

H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.

The Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon

http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=03070

Strong's Number: 3070 hry hwhy
Original Word Word Origin
hry hwhy from (03068) and (07200) Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Y@hovah yireh yeh-ho-vaw' yir-eh'
Parts of Speech TWOT
Proper Name
Location None
Definition
Jehovah-jireh = "Jehovah sees"

1. symbolic name given by Abraham to Mount Moriah in commemoration of the interposition of the angel of Jehovah who prevented the sacrifice of Isaac and provided a substitute
Translated Words
KJV (1) - Jehovahjireh, 1;


Psa 68:4 SingH7891 unto God,H430 sing praisesH2167 to his name:H8034 extolH5549 him that ridethH7392 upon the heavensH6160 by his nameH8034 JAH,H3050 and rejoiceH5937 beforeH6440 him. [/b]


BDB H3050
יהּ
yâhh
BDB Definition:
1) Jah (Jehovah in the shortened form)
1a) the proper name of the one true God
1b) used in many compounds
1b1) names beginning with the letters ‘Je’
1b2) names ending with ‘iah’ or ‘jah’
Part of Speech: noun proper deity


The Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=03050

Strong's Number: 3050 hhy
Original Word Word Origin

hhy
Word Origin
contraction for (03068), and meaning the same
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Yahh yaw
Parts of Speech TWOT
Proper Name 484b
Definition
1. Jah (Jehovah in the shortened form)
a)the proper name of the one true God
b) used in many compounds
1.names beginning with the letters 'Je'
2.names ending with 'iah' or 'jah'

Translated Words
KJV (49) - JAH, 1; LORD, 48;

NAS (50) - GOD, 1; LORD, 49;

The Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=03068

Strong's Number: 3068 hwhy
Original Word Word Origin

hwhy from (01961)
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Y@hovah yeh-ho-vaw'
Parts of Speech TWOT
Proper Name 484a
Definition
Jehovah = "the existing One"
1. the proper name of the one true God
a)unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of 0136

Translated Words
KJV (6519) - GOD, 4; JEHOVAH, 4; LORD, 6510; variant, 1;

NAS (6824) - GOD, 314; LORD, 6399; LORD'S, 111

Just as was clearly explained previously, in post 61, 67 and many posts before that, but you have to actually want the truth and you actually have to read things.

Strong's does not have yah as a prefix. Again from that article:


Quote:
...proper names with the theophoric element of Yah or Yahu incorporated, use it as a suffix or ending, and not as a prefix. The common theophoric prefixes that are found in the Hebrew texts are Yeho, and the truncated form Yo. There are many Biblical Hebrew names that demonstrate these two prefixes. For example, from Strong's Concordance:

Yehownathan (H3083), Yonathan (H3129), Yehowceph (H3084), Yoseph (H3130), Yehowshua (H3091).


...Below are some of the various pronunciations, if read as written, that are found in the Leningrad Codex. This codex is from the Ben Asher family of texts, that are referenced in the OT translation of many of our modern versions, and is dated approximately 1008 ce:

YeHWaH ~ Jeremiah 3:25
YHoWaH ~ Genesis 18:17
YeHoWaH ~ Genesis 3:14
YHWiH ~ Psalms 68:21
YeHWiH ~ Genesis 15:2, 8
YeHoWiH ~ 1 Kings 2:26 , Judges 16:28
YaHWaH ~ Psalms 144:15


You can verify the above vocalizations found in the Leningrad Codex by clicking here. > http://www.tanach.us/Tanach.xml

Some of these can also be viewed in the Aleppo Codex, which is also from the Ben Asher family of texts dated approximately 980 ce, and can be found here. > http://www.aleppocodex.org/

It should be noted, that in the later Ben Chayyim texts which the OT portion of the KJV and other reformation Bibles are based on,
that YHWH is pointed as Yehowah in the majority of cases that it appears in the Hebrew text (approx 6500 times). It is pointed as Yehowih on a minor number of occasions (approx 300 times), when the title Elohiym follows YHWH in the text.

And from post # 75


*****Ne'aryah, WHY IT CAN"T BE YAH, based on the Hebrew language****

Quote:
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In order for YAHshua to be an actual name in Hebrew, it would need to be spelled in Hebrew as Yod-Hey-Shin-Vav-Ayin. Unfortunately for it's supporters, this name can not be found anywhere in the Hebrew Scriptures. What you will find in the Hebrew Scriptures is Yehoshua (H3091) which is written in the Hebrew as Yod-Hey-Vav-Shin-Ayin or Yod-Hey-Vav-Shin-Vav-Ayin, or the shortened form Yeshua (H3442-H3443) which is written in the Hebrew as Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin.

The main obstacles in trying to render His name as YAHshua instead of Yeshua, is created by the fact that there is no Hebrew letter "hey" in Yeshua, and also by the Masoretic vowel pointings or nikud. The tsere that is under the Yod in "Yeshua" in the Hebrew scriptures demonstrates the vocalization of the first syllable as "yay," and not "YAH."
This is also true of the Greek vowel eta, which is pronounced "Yay", and is found in the transliterated Greek rendering of Yeshua which is Iesous. Many use Y'shua thinking that it is a shortened version of YAHshua, when in fact, Yshua would represent a truncated version of the long form Yehoshua with the theophoric element "Yeho" removed. This shortening occurred with many names that possessed the theophoric element of the Name of the Almighty during the second temple period.

Another example would be Yehowseph shortened to Yoseph. Biblical names such as Yehonatan (Jonathan), Yehoyaqim (Jehoiakim), Yehoshafat (Jehoshaphat), Yehoram (Jehoram), and Yehoshua (Joshua), all have the shva under the yod signifying the "Yeh" vocalization, but the later shortened version of Yehoshua (Yeshua) does not.

Some 'teachers' have promoted in their videos and books, that the Messiah's Name is YAHshua, and that it means "Yahweh is our salvation". If we review the meanings of the correct scriptural names, we find that the long form of Yehoshua would translate as "YHVH is salvation" or "He who is (or will be) saves".
I am not sure where the 'our' could possibly come from in their constructed name of YAHshua. Some of these same teachers have stated that they do not like to use the name Yeshua, because it only means "salvation". This needs to be clarified, as it is an incorrect statement. Yeshuah (H3444) written Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin-Hey, is a feminine noun that means "salvation". Yeshua (H3442) written Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin, is a masculine noun that means "He is salvation" or "He saves." It is the name that refers to Joshua in the TeNaKh (OT), and is the shortened form of Yehoshua which the name Jesus was derived from. In scripture we find in Matthew 1:21 "for He will save His people from their sins"

If someone firmly believes that the manufactured rendering of YAHshua is a scriptural name, then I would recommend that they check it out for themselves in the Hebrew texts. Creating one's own language concepts while ignoring the rules that govern transliteration and vocalization, and then applying them to other languages to aid in the formation of a Hebrew sounding name does not demonstrate sound or acceptable scholarship. It appears according to the above explanation that "YAHshua" is a manufactured name that has been assembled using faulty scholarship in an effort to support a theological agenda.


For more please see http://www.seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.htm

Vic
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RE: What's the True Name of God? - Vic - 04-22-2011 05:52 PM
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