What's the True Name of God?

[Vic]

(04-28-2011 03:46 PM)NearYah Wrote:  Shalom Vic,
Though you didn’t answer the question directly you did give me enough that I could go back and follow your words clearly. I still haven’t had a chance to re-read all of your post for a fifth time (I’m not joking). I think I follow what you’re saying.
So before I begin I would like to state the following based from scripture, as to why I feel this should not be taken as a definite from anyone’s perspective.
1Woe to her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city! She obeyed not the voice; she received not correction; she trusted not in the LORD; she drew not near to her God. Her princes within her are roaring lions; her judges are evening wolves; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow. Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary, they have done violence to the law. The just LORD is in the midst thereof; he will not do iniquity: every morning doth he bring his judgment to light, he faileth not; but the unjust knoweth no shame. I have cut off the nations: their towers are desolate; I made their streets waste, that none passeth by: their cities are destroyed, so that there is no man, that there is none inhabitant. I said, Surely thou wilt fear me, thou wilt receive instruction; so their dwelling should not be cut off, howsoever I punished them: but they rose early, and corrupted all their doings. Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

So why do I post? Because no good moreh is going to tell you that their way is the right way, much like you adamantly have done on these boards through using the name Yeshua as being acceptable, or Yehovah (if I’m understanding you) to be the correct form. It is literally impossible to be 100% sure of.
Now, what we can do as believers is do our best to figure out what is what, and why some say it Yahweh, Yehovah , Alahiym and others Elohim. With that in mind I will do my best to stick with the Strong’s since it seems to be your source of “go to” information. Then we can work our way backward starting with your last informative post. My last question that was asked to you was could you please explain how you get yah to yeh when using the reference number to strong’s 3050. Your response is the following.

I erased the many quotes of Psalms, and more that you gave because they all contain to the above point.

So if you remember I came into this conversation with one question. How did you get to yeh? In Paleo the root of the word is an ahh sound, right? ....

[Moderation note per forum rules, although post left intact. You have an issue with me, Ne'aryah, you take it private. Here's the forum rules, please read them. http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=2 >> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=228 Thank you. Vic]

For the record I’m asking you politely to tone your tone down with the personal unneeded insults and horrible assumptions. It took me a moment to figure out what a HR is because as I have explained time and time again with many here already ( I hate titles). I’m not sure what faith you are, but as I discussed with Mary and Rose the root of mine is love, it is to be the means that we communicate even to the children or hard-hearted. If you can’t present yourself in that manner than you can continue to make this site what is without the participation of those like myself, which seek understanding through the spirit. I read each of your comments and not one of them failed to have a negative remark. So that is what the Wow was for it was more so toward your hostility and arrogance. The reason why I’ve read your post several times before responding is to make sure my spirit didn’t detect any hidden intent through your words. So I waited till today when I would have time to explain myself fully. So no I’m not telling you how to write, I’m calling out the brotherly love that is suppose to be apart of your walk as a believer not, as a dictator of a computerized site. The decision is up to you considering your response I may not respond at all. So I say to you in advance. Yah Bless you

Shalom!

Nearyah, you have no idea, obviously, how much time and patience answering you correctly has taken--with the right attitude. Starting with allowing you to keep the nic you have which violates forum rules. Which states, since you didn't bother to read them or perhaps feel you are somewhat above them, that nics are to be in clear understandable english. http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=777 If someone does not choose to follow that rule they are given opportunity normally to provide a replacement and if they refuse their membership is terminated.

I allowed you to keep your nic for clear reasons. You have lived up to those reasons. Further, I have allowed the continual sniping, attempts at provoking myself and other members, attempts to insult, your arrogance and put downs, and the dissemination of your teachings, which in the rules is called spamming the forum with your beliefs. The reason we know you were not just here to discuss, is because you have said you wanted to teach us, and because of the manner of what and how you present your doctrine. For example "I’m teaching you today about Yah"

You also contradict yourself regularly, by saying one must know the 'true name' for example and can research it and find it but then say no one can be 100% sure. etc. Except you proclaim the names you use to be the true one and all others false.

You claim you are humble[repeatedly] and can accept correction and then turn around and totally dismiss Scriptures, facts, and language science information. Instead you believe opinion is what we should be 'logically' applying. So opinion trumps the Scriptures and provable facts. Opinion, conjecture, guesses, pseudo-scholarship trumps actual truth. You also attempt to control and manipulate the discussion by avoiding the Scriptures and factual presentation by making it appear it would be some horrible dialogue or not worth responding to, to actually address the things you obviously cannot refute based on your beliefs.

Further, just as an aside, anyone who claims and proclaims themselves humble is not. Anyone knows that. The very moment you think you are humble you have just proven you are not.

Your association with Jeff Benner > please see the thread > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.p...230#pid230

You said you sourced Karaite Nehemiah Gordon, originally on tour with Michael Rood with their sham called scholarship, for 'Raiders of the Lost Book > http://www.seekgod.ca/roodnewsflash.htm ;

titled > Raiders of the Lost Book Equals Raiders of Nothing of Value :
Michael Rood of A Rood Awakening and Nehemia Gordon
US Speaking Tour January 2005

And > http://www.seekgod.ca/roodnewsflash2.htm > The Creator's Calendar and the Restoration of All Things And
Raiders of the Lost Book: New Discoveries in the Hebrew Text of Matthew

Please also see > http://www.seekgod.ca/htroodpagan.htm

Quote:These are only the sources that I think you would be familiar with. In other words this is only the more popular list of names and tools that I feel the average American Western Christian uses (no offense).

You should really do your homework. None of the posters in dialogue with you, other than one, is American. You should have just used the normal slur of "our western gentile mind" being incapable of knowing other than the things and people you mentioned. You would be surprised ---I am more than sure---of what we do know. and about who..

Further, the Jewish bible you use? would that be Stern's Complete Jewish Bible? Please do read this article > http://www.seekgod.ca/hr/hrfaqs9a1.htm#cjb
Myth. David Stern's Complete Jewish Bible (CJB), is the best Bible to use

And your Paleo Hebrew---from Jeff Benner primarily? Oh well....

So now you have made the statement, as invariably comes from those holding your beliefs and opinions, you play the victim and walk away. Your claim you are being abused and attacked, when what is done is fully evaluation and refutation on your opinions, conjecture and pseudo scholarship. We are doing what we are called to do and that is weigh to the Word of God and prove all things. Your spirit is a little off in discerning truth, about us, our attitudes---and mine in particular, as well as Rose's. It is fully about proving all things and refuting and reproving according to the Word of God.You say you have only offered us all truth and we all reject it---which means you believe we are all in error and you stand alone against such as us, who then must be disseminating error. Regardless that we point people to Christ and the Word of God as standard for doctrine while you offer opinion and want all to set aside the Scriptures.

Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Quote:I personally tried calling him Jesus and God in isolation and I felt funny. Again, sorry

It would not be a surprise that you felt 'funny' if you do not know Him. Because regardless of what you contradict yourself on, saying on the one hand you know the true name but, also, no one can be 100% sure, you reject the etymology of the Name of Jesus and the person, if you cannot say His Name in English.

I would ask if you ever accepted Jesus as your Savior and Lord before you got into all this name, paleo and "ben yisrael' stuff [while claiming you don't use titles], but I would suggest you would not want to admit that. Or if you did, you would reject it as not being based on Truth. You don't even want to use the true Hebrew of Yeshua....which is really sad. I can't help but think of these verses. Keeping in mind that the NT was written in Koine Greek, not Hebrew and translating and transliterating the name of Jesus took place so that all could say His Name in what they could understand in their own languages.

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jn 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.