Quest7 Introduction

[Quest7]

A warm hello to all members of SeekGod.

I don't claim adherence to a denominator other than Jesus. I prefer Yahshua...I hope that name doesn't offend any here! I don't take offense of Jesus being used and sometimes use it when speaking with people who don't know His name or with those who go by Jesus, (but I don't use it to deceive people, as someone accused "Yahshua", etc. users of doing.)

I grew up "Baptist", married "Church of Christ", divorced to "HR". Where I'm at right now, I find much of HR is traditional church style and expectations (commandments of men and ignoring God's) with judaism (also commandments of men and not biblical) applications inserted in place of the pagan applications in traditional churches. But, with a few exceptions, the same ole baggage exists...lacking compassion and repentance to only the commandments of God, too busy and caught up in the 'world', to really be the church in Acts.

[sheep wrecked]

(12-20-2010 03:18 AM)Quest7 Wrote:  A warm hello to all members of SeekGod.

I don't claim adherence to a denominator other than Jesus. I prefer Yahshua...I hope that name doesn't offend any here! I don't take offense of Jesus being used and sometimes use it when speaking with people who don't know His name or with those who go by Jesus, (but I don't use it to deceive people, as someone accused "Yahshua", etc. users of doing.)

I grew up "Baptist", married "Church of Christ", divorced to "HR". Where I'm at right now, I find much of HR is traditional church style and expectations (commandments of men and ignoring God's) with judaism (also commandments of men and not biblical) applications inserted in place of the pagan applications in traditional churches. But, with a few exceptions, the same ole baggage exists...lacking compassion and repentance to only the commandments of God, too busy and caught up in the 'world', to really be the church in Acts.

to the forum Quest!

Jesus is His Name, as is Iesous [Greek], Iesus [Latin], and Yeshua [Hebrew], and many other pronunciations around the world. It is not a pronunciation, it is knowing WHO He is and what He has done for us. Unfortunately, yahshua is not a Hebrew name, so it can't be His name at all. There has always been confusion in the Hebrew Roots/Messianic camp as to where the name of Jesus came from and it's not some conspiracy that "changed" His name. If you had taken the time to look at the forum at bit before charging in hoping we are "not offended", you would have seen the simple explanation We are not offended when people use "yahshua", it's just wrong and are gladly willing to show why

Read these articles and if you have a scholarly refutation that would be worthy of discussion, that might be possible "Coming in the Name of His Father" is NOT a scholarly refutation

http://www.seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.htm

http://www.seekgod.ca/htname.htm

One does not "marry the church of Christ". One is IN Christ due to His shed blood for our sins. One does not "divorce" the church. If you are not in the church of Christ, you are not His - not referring to the organized religion, but His body. Being in HR does not make one in the church of Christ, it is a diversion from who He is and His sacrifice for us.

The church in Acts clearly shows that Gentiles do not keep Torah. There were 4 commandments given in Acts 15, some of which do not even appear in Torah in the way they are given. It was to keep the Jews practicing Torah from being offended. The entire NT has to be taken in perspective, not a few select verses plucked out of context to make a new religion.

Please do take time to read through the threads in the Messianic Judaism section before continuing try to "explain" what you believe because we are very familiar with all the teachings and concepts

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=9

[Quest7]

(12-20-2010 11:27 AM)sheep wrecked Wrote:  

(12-20-2010 03:18 AM)Quest7 Wrote:  A warm hello to all members of SeekGod.

I don't claim adherence to a denominator other than Jesus. I prefer Yahshua...I hope that name doesn't offend any here! I don't take offense of Jesus being used and sometimes use it when speaking with people who don't know His name or with those who go by Jesus, (but I don't use it to deceive people, as someone accused "Yahshua", etc. users of doing.)

I grew up "Baptist", married "Church of Christ", divorced to "HR". Where I'm at right now, I find much of HR is traditional church style and expectations (commandments of men and ignoring God's) with judaism (also commandments of men and not biblical) applications inserted in place of the pagan applications in traditional churches. But, with a few exceptions, the same ole baggage exists...lacking compassion and repentance to only the commandments of God, too busy and caught up in the 'world', to really be the church in Acts.

to the forum Quest!

Jesus is His Name, as is Iesous [Greek], Iesus [Latin], and Yeshua [Hebrew], and many other pronunciations around the world. It is not a pronunciation, it is knowing WHO He is and what He has done for us. Unfortunately, yahshua is not a Hebrew name, so it can't be His name at all. There has always been confusion in the Hebrew Roots/Messianic camp as to where the name of Jesus came from and it's not some conspiracy that "changed" His name. If you had taken the time to look at the forum at bit before charging in hoping we are "not offended", you would have seen the simple explanation We are not offended when people use "yahshua", it's just wrong and are gladly willing to show why

Read these articles and if you have a scholarly refutation that would be worthy of discussion, that might be possible "Coming in the Name of His Father" is NOT a scholarly refutation

http://www.seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.htm

http://www.seekgod.ca/htname.htm

One does not "marry the church of Christ". One is IN Christ due to His shed blood for our sins. One does not "divorce" the church. If you are not in the church of Christ, you are not His - not referring to the organized religion, but His body. Being in HR does not make one in the church of Christ, it is a diversion from who He is and His sacrifice for us.

The church in Acts clearly shows that Gentiles do not keep Torah. There were 4 commandments given in Acts 15, some of which do not even appear in Torah in the way they are given. It was to keep the Jews practicing Torah from being offended. The entire NT has to be taken in perspective, not a few select verses plucked out of context to make a new religion.

Please do take time to read through the threads in the Messianic Judaism section before continuing try to "explain" what you believe because we are very familiar with all the teachings and concepts

http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=9

You misunderstood me. I know I didn't marry or divorce a denomination. I was merely telling my journey...my spouse was Church of Christ and when I was divorced by that spouse I learned HR. My first hint was "I grew up"...my apologies for the confusion.

I did read through many of the Messianic threads. I was merely posting my required first post intro. You may be familiar with Messianic teachings and concepts, but not mine. It seems you didn't understand the rest of my post either.

My apologies for wasting your time and effort. I thought other things about this forum per the Discussion Forum Rules.

[Rose of Shushan]

Hi Quest!
welcome to the forum.
I am so sorry for not having seen your intro.Usually I notice all new members but your intro dates back to December last year when due to illness in the family I was not keeping up with the forum as I usually do.

Sheep no longer posts here so I really doubt that she will reply back to you.
I do apologise for the rough way she treated you and other posters.Some of us did speak up on that and it ended being either her way or the highway it seems.

Quote:I grew up "Baptist", married "Church of Christ", divorced to "HR". Where I'm at right now, I find much of HR is traditional church style and expectations (commandments of men and ignoring God's) with judaism (also commandments of men and not biblical) applications inserted in place of the pagan applications in traditional churches. But, with a few exceptions, the same ole baggage exists...lacking compassion and repentance to only the commandments of God, too busy and caught up in the 'world', to really be the church in Acts.

I agree with you on what you found HR to be and regarding the baggage.
In trying to find the church of Acts that you speak of many of us end up mixing christianity with judaism and hoping to find the perfect mix that leads to what the Early Church practised.The thing is that HR teachers instead try to mix in post Temple judaism and merge that with Christianity.That was certainly not what the church in Acts was about.

Anyway thanks for sharing about yourself and your walk.Hope that you have a good weekend!

Rose of Shushan

[Vic]

Quest7,

Thanks for sharing a bit of your background. Everything we believe must be able to stand the test of Scripture, and where needed prove facts as true. I hope you are encouraged while on the forum.