Exposing the heretics within...

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Thanks Mary. I think many times a few from a group decide to come on, to try and 'teach' us. The emails I have had over the years from HR for example, some feel sorry for me, view me as where 'they were' so many years ago, think I am just not understanding things and so they need to try and teach me...and then on the other hand are the ones who attack, because we stand for everything they have rejected and thrown aside. I guess it comes as it comes.

Deborah, I too am a little puzzled by your comments. I would agree people do not always know why they believe what they do or why they fight the truth of the Scriptures etc. Some are under God given strong delusion, some under another spirit and follow another gospel and another Jesus. Some have always been spoonfed what to believe and cannot go to the Scriptures and understand them --they have been told what they mean and it's never been the Holy Spirit giving true understanding. But I do think they know they are on this site, and they know what they post and what they reject. THey may not understand why, but they do know they are believing something and holding onto those beliefs.

Quote:Lot's of deep brainwashing in the world. These things must come to pass. Is striving about the law necessary for unity?

Yes, there are going to be all manner of deceivers and deceptions, etc. And we are warned about such.

"Is striving about the law necessary for unity?" First of all, we are already unified in the Body of Christ----those who actually do believe and belong to Jesus Christ. The issues at stake are first and foremost making sure the person bringing in any doctrine, is of Christ--hence the need to try the spirits. That proof is found in their fruit, which can slowly be revealed or very quickly is revealed. Because it starts with, do they believe the Word of God, do they live it, do they desire to follow Christ--or are they clearly presenting things contrary to the Word and Christ; do they deny the Word as being true, etc....then we can go into do they believe the New Covenant and the Gospel ...not all necessarily in this order. But there are certain things that are markers for someone who belongs to Christ versus someone who is denying Him or in the process of denying Scriptural truths which happens with those in HR for example. The truth of the NT is peeled away until it is fully rejected which leads to rejection of Jesus Christ.

Strivings about the law...that happens when people reject the New Covenant which is Christ and want people to be bound to living to the Sinai covenent. Earnestly contending for the faith means knowing these issues and what it means, and it means being able to stand in defense of the truth of Christ and the Gospel. We need to know the Word so we can stand and know what we believe and why.