Christian Identity & British Israelism and the varied doctrine
09-10-2011, 04:05 PM
RE: Moved from Intro thread: Christian Identity & British Israelism
Not that it matters in the least, and not to be rude, but those above questions were not directed to you. They were directed to others who may wish discuss the known and various beliefs held by those within the Christian Identity/British Israel groups. You had many questions directed to you repeatedly in posts prior to that, which you totally sidestepped, or ignored or pretended you didn't know any had been asked, including a set of questions that was asking for scriptural support for your stated positions and beliefs. You refused. I am not really interested in what you now have to say. That's being totally honest. I am not posting to "re-engage" with you in any discussion whatsoever. I gave you roughly 20 posts which you didn't answer and sidestepped. I am simply not interested in delving further into your variant aka your version of Christian Identity, which according to you is unique from other Christian Idenity--which doesn't mean that it is actually different from particular Christian Identity beliefs, because you aloready stated you held the Christian Identity beliefs identified in my articles--and which you claim holds the answers for everyone. Otherwise you wouldn't call it Christian Identity yourself.
Now you want to make it appear that I somehow believe these variants in beliefs apply to all Christian Identity or that I am somehow making up these various beliefs. And that is precisely WRONG.
If there is one thing you are consistent about, that is twisting what has been said by someone, obscuring what is being said by someone, adding to what is being said by someone and redirecting what is being discussed. I am simply not interested in your gameor your doctrine. It's done as far as I am concerned. This thread is about Christian Identity and British Israel beliefs and why they are in error to the Scriptures.
As an aside, I have had to go through all your posts and delete all the links you have been putting in, fully knowing if you read and agreed to the forum rules which you said you had, that you weren't allowed to post links. But you've been posting links almost from the get go. And regardless how long you continue here, your privilege of posting links is permanently revoked. And any future postings that have a bible version quoted need not violate copyright any further by not having the version acknowledged. It's called abiding the laws of the land, and in that case copyright law.
Your post above with the word semantics and avoidance about white, caucasians, etc, yet again, shows a lack of being forthright about Christian Identity and British Israel KNOWN beliefs, regardless which faction one might reference for those beliefs, whether it be Christian Identity, aryan nations, KKK, posse comitatus, etc. That's as far as I am taking the conversation with you.
Except for one point and that is concerning Noah and the flood. There is contention about whether it was world wide or local--as you say. But those who believe God's Word, believe it when it says the all the earth--meaning all the earth and all flesh on the earth. There was more than just one small portion of the earth that was corrupt and had life on it. So much for your claim of believing the Word of God on all things. God didn't just make the covenant with the rainbow as the reminder, with just a small location of the earth's inhabitants or creatures.
Gen 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
Gen 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.
Gen 7:17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
Gen 7:18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
Gen 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
Gen 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
Gen 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
Gen 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
Gen 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
Gen 7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
Gen 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
Gen 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
Gen 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
Gen 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
Gen 9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
Gen 9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
Gen 9:17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luk 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
Luk 17:25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
Luk 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Luk 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
Isaiah 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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