Virgin Birth or Son of Joseph?
10-26-2010, 10:59 PM (This post was last modified: 10-26-2010 11:30 PM by sari83.)
RE: Virgin Birth or Son of Joseph?
There is only one witness. Matthew 1:23 is the only place in the NT that references the Isaiah 7:14 prophecy.
Vine's Expository Dictionary states that Immanuel is Isaiah's son. See the bold letters in the article below.
`almah ^5959^, "virgin; maiden." This noun has an Ugaritic cognate, although the masculine form also appears in Aramaic, Syriac, and Arabic. The feminine form of the root appears 9 times; the only 2 appearances of the masculine form (`elem) are in First Samuel. This suggests that this word was used rarely, perhaps because other words bore a similar meaning.
That `almah can mean "virgin" is quite clear in <Song of Sol. 6:8>: "There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins [NASB, "maidens"] without number." Thus all the women in the court are described. The word `almah represents those who are eligible for marriage but are neither wives (queens) nor concubines. These "virgins" all loved the king and longed to be chosen to be with him (to be his bride), even as did the Shulamite who became his bride <1:3-4>. In <Gen. 24:43> the word describes Rebekah, of whom it is said in <Gen. 24:16> that she was a "maiden" with whom no man had had relations. Solomon wrote that the process of wooing a woman was mysterious to him <Prov. 30:19>. Certainly in that day a man ordinarily wooed one whom he considered to be a "virgin." There are several contexts, therefore, in which a young girl's virginity is expressly in view.
Thus `almah appears to be used more of the concept "virgin" than that of "maiden," yet always of a woman who had not borne a child. This makes it the ideal word to be used in <Isa. 7:14>, since the word betulah emphasizes virility more than virginity (although it is used with both emphases, too). The reader of <Isa. 7:14> in the days preceding the birth of Jesus would read that a "virgin who is a maiden" would conceive a child. This was a possible, but irregular, use of the word since the word can refer merely to the unmarried status of the one so described. The child immediately in view was the son of the prophet and his wife (cf. <Isa. 8:3>) who served as a sign to Ahaz that his enemies would be defeated by God. On the other hand, the reader of that day must have been extremely uncomfortable with this use of the word, since its primary connotation is "virgin" rather than "maiden." Thus the clear translation of the Greek in <Matt. 1:23> whereby this word is rendered "virgin" satisfies its fullest implication. Therefore, there was no embarrassment to Isaiah when his wife conceived a son by him, since the word `almah allowed for this. Neither is there any embarrassment in Matthew's understanding of the word.
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)
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(10-26-2010 07:44 PM)sheep wrecked Wrote: I just wanted to add a quick note on the birth of Isaiah's son. In chapter 7, God speaks of a virgin conceiving whose son would be called Emmanuel. But in chapter 8, Isaiah goes in with his wife and she conceives and the son's name is not "Immanuel", but Mahershalalhashbaz
(10-26-2010 05:10 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote:Quote:4. If Jesus' birth was a fulfillment of Isaiah 7:14, why wasn't Jesus named Immanuel?
Immanuel is a personal name, not a proper noun.
6005 `Immanuw'el (im-maw-noo-ale');
from 5973 and 410 with a pronominal suffix inserted; with us (is) God; Immanuel, a type name of Isaiah's son:
(10-26-2010 06:04 PM)Rose of Shushan Wrote: If the Hebrews of Jesus' time knew that Isaiah had prophesied the Messiah would be born of virgin conception, Jesus' miraculous birth would have been publicly known and acknowledged.
Can you give me the scriptures that publicize the virgin birth?
I can see scripturally that Jesus was publicly acknowledged to be the son of Joseph:
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph's son?
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RE: Virgin Birth or Son of Joseph? - strefanash - 01-08-2009, 04:49 AM
RE: Virgin Birth or Son of Joseph? - strefanash - 01-08-2009, 11:59 AM
RE: Virgin Birth or Son of Joseph? - sari83 - 10-26-2010 10:59 PM
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