<![CDATA[SeekGod.ca Discussion Forum - All Forums]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/ Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:34:29 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[1 Peter 5 vs 7]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=929 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:35:53 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=929
A song of encouragement based on this verse:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9yNZ17j8Fg]]>
A song of encouragement based on this verse:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9yNZ17j8Fg]]> <![CDATA[Jealousy]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=928 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:56:08 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=928
Exd 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;

Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:

Are people who are jealous (covetous) of other people "playing God", since one of His names is Jealous? If jealousy is God's alone (like vengeance) it stands to reason that it is forbidden to humans. 2c]]>
Exd 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me;

Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:

Are people who are jealous (covetous) of other people "playing God", since one of His names is Jealous? If jealousy is God's alone (like vengeance) it stands to reason that it is forbidden to humans. 2c]]> <![CDATA[2012 "prophecies"]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=927 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:29:34 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=927 et al and all of them turning out to be wrong, people ought to have figured it out.]]> et al and all of them turning out to be wrong, people ought to have figured it out.]]> <![CDATA[introduction]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=926 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 13:58:40 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=926 <![CDATA[New User]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=925 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:16:29 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=925 I am Wes. 31. 2 kids. 2nd marriage. Church goer for 31 years. (mostly pentecostal)
I believe God has led me to discover truths about his word and about Him. So I am.
This is my Journey.]]> I am Wes. 31. 2 kids. 2nd marriage. Church goer for 31 years. (mostly pentecostal)
I believe God has led me to discover truths about his word and about Him. So I am.
This is my Journey.]]> <![CDATA[Rich Vermillion]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=924 Sun, 08 Jan 2012 07:33:32 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=924 I had not heard anything about this before.I found out while doing research.
For those that don't know,Rich Vermillion,who was a partner in Kenneth Copeland's ministry for about 17 years,started a website to
publicly rebuke Mr Copeland,his family,and his ministry for their "sins".
"I am calling on “The man, his family, and his ministry… to simply repent.”,he says over and over on his site,kennethcopelandblog.com.

Mr Vermillion rebukes Kenneth Copeland,Creflo Dollar and others of their false doctrine but continues in his own.
He still believes in and practices the charismatic "sign gifts" such as prophecy/prophesying and implies that he is a "true prophet" and Mr Copeland a false prophet.
He has this you tube video on every one of his websites,I guess as proof of his prophesying prowess.As far as I can tell this is the only thing he has to claim he is a prophesying,prophet.
It sounds more like it was a psychic reading.
Video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsCM3JmFFI8

I liken that to being psychic not prophetic.
I am writing about Rich Vermillion because I am concerned that people will see his website rebuking KC and think,Wow what a
great man of God and then just blindly trust what he says.
A psychic can do the very thing that he did/does.What really gets me is that he wrote this article,"Judging Prophecy Correctly"but still hasn't figured out the truth for himself yet.The blind leading the blind.
In his article he set up his own parameters for judging who may be a false prophet.To the unsuspecting person it would appear sound and biblical but it biased in that he only uses it to try and prove biblically that he is a "true prophet".
Article here richvermillion.com/2011/07/13/judging-prophecy-correctly/
The major hole in all of this is the fact that there are no more prophets.

He just blindly believes that his psychic ability is prophesying and from God.It is not,just because you get it right does not mean that it is of God.
Act_16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
Definition for soothsaying:d
Web definitions:
divination: the art or gift of prophecy (or the pretense of prophecy) by supernatural means.

It is safe to say that the damsel in the verse was most likely right a lot about what she said when practicing her trade of soothsaying
because she brought her masters much gain.If she had been wrong in the things she said then word would have spread that she was wrong,people would not have went to see her and she would not have brought much gain.

The prophets of the bible were needed to lay the foundation of the church.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

The foundation was already laid by the apostles and prophets of the bible.There is no need for prophets any longer.
The work is done unless you are trying to lay another foundation.

1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

There is no need for further prophetic revelation.In the words of Jesus Christ,It is finished!
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

The laying of the foundation of the gospel of Jesus Christ is finished.There are no more apostles or prophets.It is finished.
There are no new,special "revelations",the Bible,the Word of God,is finished.God has given each and every one of us everything we need to know Him.
We have His Word.
We have His Son,Jesus Christ.
and we Have His Spirit,the Holy Spirit,that dwells in us.

I pray for Rich and Kenneth but ultimately it is in God's hands.His will be done.]]> I had not heard anything about this before.I found out while doing research.
For those that don't know,Rich Vermillion,who was a partner in Kenneth Copeland's ministry for about 17 years,started a website to
publicly rebuke Mr Copeland,his family,and his ministry for their "sins".
"I am calling on “The man, his family, and his ministry… to simply repent.”,he says over and over on his site,kennethcopelandblog.com.

Mr Vermillion rebukes Kenneth Copeland,Creflo Dollar and others of their false doctrine but continues in his own.
He still believes in and practices the charismatic "sign gifts" such as prophecy/prophesying and implies that he is a "true prophet" and Mr Copeland a false prophet.
He has this you tube video on every one of his websites,I guess as proof of his prophesying prowess.As far as I can tell this is the only thing he has to claim he is a prophesying,prophet.
It sounds more like it was a psychic reading.
Video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsCM3JmFFI8

I liken that to being psychic not prophetic.
I am writing about Rich Vermillion because I am concerned that people will see his website rebuking KC and think,Wow what a
great man of God and then just blindly trust what he says.
A psychic can do the very thing that he did/does.What really gets me is that he wrote this article,"Judging Prophecy Correctly"but still hasn't figured out the truth for himself yet.The blind leading the blind.
In his article he set up his own parameters for judging who may be a false prophet.To the unsuspecting person it would appear sound and biblical but it biased in that he only uses it to try and prove biblically that he is a "true prophet".
Article here richvermillion.com/2011/07/13/judging-prophecy-correctly/
The major hole in all of this is the fact that there are no more prophets.

He just blindly believes that his psychic ability is prophesying and from God.It is not,just because you get it right does not mean that it is of God.
Act_16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
Definition for soothsaying:d
Web definitions:
divination: the art or gift of prophecy (or the pretense of prophecy) by supernatural means.

It is safe to say that the damsel in the verse was most likely right a lot about what she said when practicing her trade of soothsaying
because she brought her masters much gain.If she had been wrong in the things she said then word would have spread that she was wrong,people would not have went to see her and she would not have brought much gain.

The prophets of the bible were needed to lay the foundation of the church.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

The foundation was already laid by the apostles and prophets of the bible.There is no need for prophets any longer.
The work is done unless you are trying to lay another foundation.

1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

There is no need for further prophetic revelation.In the words of Jesus Christ,It is finished!
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

The laying of the foundation of the gospel of Jesus Christ is finished.There are no more apostles or prophets.It is finished.
There are no new,special "revelations",the Bible,the Word of God,is finished.God has given each and every one of us everything we need to know Him.
We have His Word.
We have His Son,Jesus Christ.
and we Have His Spirit,the Holy Spirit,that dwells in us.

I pray for Rich and Kenneth but ultimately it is in God's hands.His will be done.]]> <![CDATA[Rob Bell]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=923 Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:54:53 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=923 Rob was listed on Time Magazine's 2011 Time 100,A list of who Time considers the most influential people in the world.
Article Here time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2066367_2066369_2066460,00.html

I quote from the Times article
Quote:Rob Bell thinks he knows — or, more precisely, he thinks we can't know,
because the biblical discussion of salvation (as with so much else) is contradictory.
Some passages say only those who explicitly acknowledge Jesus as Lord will find eternal peace.
Others claim that, in Jesus' own words, "the gates of Hell shall not prevail" and Jesus' sacrifice means universal salvation.

Bell argues for mystery, not certitude. "In the book, I write about how some have believed that all will be reconciled," he told TIME, "and while I long for that as I think everybody should long for it, I don't take a position of certainty because, of course, I don't know how it all turns out."


"shakes her head" Of course he quotes scripture out of context to make it seem as though the bible contradicts itself.
I will never understand how people like this will preach and teach from the bible but say it contradicts itself.
If you don't believe it to be true why would you try to spread what is says?Why preach it or teach it if you believe it is wrong or untrue.That makes no sense to me.

If you have read and believe what the bible says you can be certain that there is a hell.People only get to choose here and now while they are in these bodies,after you have past from here to there it is to late.
The impact on souls is devastating with this kind of false doctrine.
Vic has a great article called, Will God say, "Just Kidding," About Eternity? here http://www.seekgod.ca/eternity.htm

Martin Bashir of MSNBC puts Bell on the hot seat about his book,Love Wins,accusing him of "amending the gospel",then continues on to say,"So here comes Rob Bell, he’s made a Christian gospel for you, and it’s perfectly palatable, it’s much easier to swallow."
Full TV interview here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/...7#42098348

In the RECENT NEWS REGARDING ROB BELL on the Mars Hills web site,Rob resigned from the church at the end of Dec 2011.
There is a pdf file on the site of his letter of resignation that he read to his congregation before leaving to move to LA.
It is an 11 page letter.I read it and it just came across as odd to me.It's just a weird letter with very little mention of God.
He was quoted on WZZM 13 news as saying,he felt a "calling to share God's love" in new ways. Here wzzm13.com/news/article/180330/2/Pastor-Rob-Bell-leaving-Mars-Hill-Church-for-Los-Angeles

After doing more research it seems to me that it was most likely Hollywood calling him to "share" in new ways.
Bell attended the 2011 Time 100 gala in Sept,where he met Carlton Cuse an Emmy Award winning screenwriter and producer who has worked on tv shows such as,Lost.
The two immediately hit it off and soon concocted the idea for a show called Stronger.
According to Deadline,ABC Buys Spiritual Drama From ‘Lost’ Exec Producer Carlton Cuse And Pastor Rob Bell
http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/abc-buys...-rob-bell/

I for one am glad he is no longer behind a pulpit spewing his heresy.I will not be watching the show. No]]> Rob was listed on Time Magazine's 2011 Time 100,A list of who Time considers the most influential people in the world.
Article Here time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2066367_2066369_2066460,00.html

I quote from the Times article
Quote:Rob Bell thinks he knows — or, more precisely, he thinks we can't know,
because the biblical discussion of salvation (as with so much else) is contradictory.
Some passages say only those who explicitly acknowledge Jesus as Lord will find eternal peace.
Others claim that, in Jesus' own words, "the gates of Hell shall not prevail" and Jesus' sacrifice means universal salvation.

Bell argues for mystery, not certitude. "In the book, I write about how some have believed that all will be reconciled," he told TIME, "and while I long for that as I think everybody should long for it, I don't take a position of certainty because, of course, I don't know how it all turns out."


"shakes her head" Of course he quotes scripture out of context to make it seem as though the bible contradicts itself.
I will never understand how people like this will preach and teach from the bible but say it contradicts itself.
If you don't believe it to be true why would you try to spread what is says?Why preach it or teach it if you believe it is wrong or untrue.That makes no sense to me.

If you have read and believe what the bible says you can be certain that there is a hell.People only get to choose here and now while they are in these bodies,after you have past from here to there it is to late.
The impact on souls is devastating with this kind of false doctrine.
Vic has a great article called, Will God say, "Just Kidding," About Eternity? here http://www.seekgod.ca/eternity.htm

Martin Bashir of MSNBC puts Bell on the hot seat about his book,Love Wins,accusing him of "amending the gospel",then continues on to say,"So here comes Rob Bell, he’s made a Christian gospel for you, and it’s perfectly palatable, it’s much easier to swallow."
Full TV interview here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/...7#42098348

In the RECENT NEWS REGARDING ROB BELL on the Mars Hills web site,Rob resigned from the church at the end of Dec 2011.
There is a pdf file on the site of his letter of resignation that he read to his congregation before leaving to move to LA.
It is an 11 page letter.I read it and it just came across as odd to me.It's just a weird letter with very little mention of God.
He was quoted on WZZM 13 news as saying,he felt a "calling to share God's love" in new ways. Here wzzm13.com/news/article/180330/2/Pastor-Rob-Bell-leaving-Mars-Hill-Church-for-Los-Angeles

After doing more research it seems to me that it was most likely Hollywood calling him to "share" in new ways.
Bell attended the 2011 Time 100 gala in Sept,where he met Carlton Cuse an Emmy Award winning screenwriter and producer who has worked on tv shows such as,Lost.
The two immediately hit it off and soon concocted the idea for a show called Stronger.
According to Deadline,ABC Buys Spiritual Drama From ‘Lost’ Exec Producer Carlton Cuse And Pastor Rob Bell
http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/abc-buys...-rob-bell/

I for one am glad he is no longer behind a pulpit spewing his heresy.I will not be watching the show. No]]> <![CDATA[2012]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=922 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:47:36 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=922 <![CDATA[Wise Man vs Foolish Man]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=921 Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:09:05 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=921 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[Large Print Edition]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=920 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:38:04 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=920

Hehe]]>

Hehe]]> <![CDATA[Blaspheming the Holy Ghost]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=919 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:57:51 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=919 Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:


I was terrified that I might have done this because I was under strong delusion for many years.I believed and excepted some other spirit
as being the holy spirit and after God had delivered me from it and showed me the truth I was distraught thinking I had
blasphemed the true Holy Ghost.I thought a thread about it might be helpful to me and others that may be in the same situation.

Blaspheme
G987
βλασφημέω
blasphēmeō
blas-fay-meh'-o
From G989; to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: - (speak) blaspheme (-er, -mously, -my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.


Definition of BLASPHEME from Merriam-Webster.com
transitive verb
1
: to speak of or address with irreverence
2
: revile, abuse
intransitive verb
: to utter blasphemy

blaspheme
verb
to use offensive or indecent language <shocked that someone would blaspheme in church, of all places>
Synonyms blaspheme, curse, cuss
Related Words anathematize, confound, damn, execrate, imprecate; fulminate, rail, rant, revile



I know people like to say that it's not something you do on accident..but what about if you're blinded and under strong delusion?]]> Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:


I was terrified that I might have done this because I was under strong delusion for many years.I believed and excepted some other spirit
as being the holy spirit and after God had delivered me from it and showed me the truth I was distraught thinking I had
blasphemed the true Holy Ghost.I thought a thread about it might be helpful to me and others that may be in the same situation.

Blaspheme
G987
βλασφημέω
blasphēmeō
blas-fay-meh'-o
From G989; to vilify; specifically to speak impiously: - (speak) blaspheme (-er, -mously, -my), defame, rail on, revile, speak evil.


Definition of BLASPHEME from Merriam-Webster.com
transitive verb
1
: to speak of or address with irreverence
2
: revile, abuse
intransitive verb
: to utter blasphemy

blaspheme
verb
to use offensive or indecent language <shocked that someone would blaspheme in church, of all places>
Synonyms blaspheme, curse, cuss
Related Words anathematize, confound, damn, execrate, imprecate; fulminate, rail, rant, revile



I know people like to say that it's not something you do on accident..but what about if you're blinded and under strong delusion?]]> <![CDATA[Young Moses]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=918 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:07:01 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=918

Exo 14:21 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.]]>

Exo 14:21 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.]]> <![CDATA[Erring on the side of caution]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=917 Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:58:51 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=917 certain that God doesn't care if I eat pork or not (he that doubteth is damned if he eats). I had to give up eating particular brands of delicious poultry sausage because I discovered they had a pork casing.]]> certain that God doesn't care if I eat pork or not (he that doubteth is damned if he eats). I had to give up eating particular brands of delicious poultry sausage because I discovered they had a pork casing.]]> <![CDATA[Burnt Offering]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=916 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:54:21 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=916

Deu 27:6 Thou shalt build the altar of the LORD thy God of whole stones: and thou shalt offer burnt offerings thereon unto the LORD thy God:]]>

Deu 27:6 Thou shalt build the altar of the LORD thy God of whole stones: and thou shalt offer burnt offerings thereon unto the LORD thy God:]]> <![CDATA[Vain Repetitions]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=915 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:07:59 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=915 I know when we pray we are to believe that God hears us and will answer us if we are praying in His will.

1John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jn 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

I have a tendency to ask God for the same things quite frequently,mostly because it doesn't seem as though I have received what I've prayed for.
I seem to ask God for knowledge and understanding every day.God has given me some knowledge and understanding of which I am very thankful but I would like more.
Paul wrote ..

2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
2Co 12:8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

Besought
G3870
παρακαλέω
parakaleō
par-ak-al-eh'-o
From G3844 and G2564; to call near, that is, invite, invoke (by imploration, hortation or consolation): - beseech, call for, (be of good) comfort, desire, (give) exhort (-ation), intreat, pray.


So when should we stop asking God for something..after asking Him 3 times?
When do prayers become vain repetitions?]]> I know when we pray we are to believe that God hears us and will answer us if we are praying in His will.

1John 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jn 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

I have a tendency to ask God for the same things quite frequently,mostly because it doesn't seem as though I have received what I've prayed for.
I seem to ask God for knowledge and understanding every day.God has given me some knowledge and understanding of which I am very thankful but I would like more.
Paul wrote ..

2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
2Co 12:8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.

Besought
G3870
παρακαλέω
parakaleō
par-ak-al-eh'-o
From G3844 and G2564; to call near, that is, invite, invoke (by imploration, hortation or consolation): - beseech, call for, (be of good) comfort, desire, (give) exhort (-ation), intreat, pray.


So when should we stop asking God for something..after asking Him 3 times?
When do prayers become vain repetitions?]]> <![CDATA[Are Men&omen Equal?]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=914 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:14:35 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=914
Hopefully this one doesn't fall under a doctrine issue.

Okay so in 1 Corinthians 11:3 it says...

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Then this..
1Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

But then I read this and I became a little confused...

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

There are verses that clearly say there are distinctions between men and women...but then in Galatians 3:28 it says we are all one.If we are all one then there is no distinction..therefor a man is not my head but only Christ is my head??

I'm sure I'm missing something, somewhere.I'm glad I get to post a new thread Yipeee!

BTW Disclaimer
I am not a feminist.It is my hope and my prayer to always and in all things to be fully,wholly submitted to God.Smile]]>
Hopefully this one doesn't fall under a doctrine issue.

Okay so in 1 Corinthians 11:3 it says...

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Then this..
1Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

But then I read this and I became a little confused...

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

There are verses that clearly say there are distinctions between men and women...but then in Galatians 3:28 it says we are all one.If we are all one then there is no distinction..therefor a man is not my head but only Christ is my head??

I'm sure I'm missing something, somewhere.I'm glad I get to post a new thread Yipeee!

BTW Disclaimer
I am not a feminist.It is my hope and my prayer to always and in all things to be fully,wholly submitted to God.Smile]]> <![CDATA[Newbies and General Discussion Section]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=913 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:33:49 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=913 UPDATE December 12, 2011 > As a Trial, Newbies are going to be allowed to start threads in the General Discussion section,which is just below The Endtimes section. THis will be a allowed as long as those threads and discussion, are NOT used for doctrinal discussions which belong in the other sections of the board; that is, the main Discussion Boards and The Endtimes section. **One caution would be in the Share a Favorite Scripture and What it Means to You----that must not be used to promote a huge doctrinal discussion but rather, merely as a way to encourage others, for example.

>>3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

As a parent this gives me great peace and joy to know that our children walk with Christ.<<<

That type of Scriptural sharing.

Or> I was looking for some verses to help me deal with ? and here's what I found.... END UPDATE

As a reminder here and in all the threads which contain the forum rules, PLEASE remember for the rest of the forum:

***Please note that Newbies are not to post links for/to other websites, blogs etc. until they have at least 50 posts. Newbies are not to post any links/urls in any posts ***-including their signatures***--until they have 50 posts, nor can Newbies Start Threads--other than their Introduce Yourself thread-- until they have posted 50 or more posts.
***Please note, that you may post and use links to the SeekGod.ca website articles or forum links.**** Readers are being directed in the Contact information of the SeekGod.ca website, to bring questions or comments, or further information requests to the forum. There is also a specific section set up to deal directly with SeekGod.ca articles if people wish to address them there or in any appropriate thread.

10164]]> UPDATE December 12, 2011 > As a Trial, Newbies are going to be allowed to start threads in the General Discussion section,which is just below The Endtimes section. THis will be a allowed as long as those threads and discussion, are NOT used for doctrinal discussions which belong in the other sections of the board; that is, the main Discussion Boards and The Endtimes section. **One caution would be in the Share a Favorite Scripture and What it Means to You----that must not be used to promote a huge doctrinal discussion but rather, merely as a way to encourage others, for example.

>>3John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

As a parent this gives me great peace and joy to know that our children walk with Christ.<<<

That type of Scriptural sharing.

Or> I was looking for some verses to help me deal with ? and here's what I found.... END UPDATE

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***Please note that Newbies are not to post links for/to other websites, blogs etc. until they have at least 50 posts. Newbies are not to post any links/urls in any posts ***-including their signatures***--until they have 50 posts, nor can Newbies Start Threads--other than their Introduce Yourself thread-- until they have posted 50 or more posts.
***Please note, that you may post and use links to the SeekGod.ca website articles or forum links.**** Readers are being directed in the Contact information of the SeekGod.ca website, to bring questions or comments, or further information requests to the forum. There is also a specific section set up to deal directly with SeekGod.ca articles if people wish to address them there or in any appropriate thread.

10164]]> <![CDATA[Occult ads target atheists]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=911 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:45:57 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=911
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http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/18/...m-20110718]]> <![CDATA[Hello]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=909 Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:30:35 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=909 Hello, my Jason. I am a machinist by trade, and an administrator for a local ministry. I was referred to this site by a sister in Christ who was doing some research. I found a link on the website that I had been here before while doing my own research on translations and such. Unfortunately a split ocurred within the church that I am currently with on interpretation of Hebrew and how authority can be overstated by using it adamantly. Some of the myths that are stated on your website are some of the arguements that I have heard before. There is alot of good information and I value the resource of the website. Hope to get to know people here and take part in sharing faith. Jesus Bless!]]> Hello, my Jason. I am a machinist by trade, and an administrator for a local ministry. I was referred to this site by a sister in Christ who was doing some research. I found a link on the website that I had been here before while doing my own research on translations and such. Unfortunately a split ocurred within the church that I am currently with on interpretation of Hebrew and how authority can be overstated by using it adamantly. Some of the myths that are stated on your website are some of the arguements that I have heard before. There is alot of good information and I value the resource of the website. Hope to get to know people here and take part in sharing faith. Jesus Bless!]]> <![CDATA[119Ministries & Jim Staley, rico cortez, brad scott, scot dryer, bill cloud ]]> http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=908 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 21:58:30 +0000 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=908 I was asked about two ministries today.

One was straitwaytruth.com with a Charles Dowell, who is a combination of Hebrew Roots, Israelite community (believes original Israelites were all black) sabbatarian, under the law, charismatic deliverance, healings, tongues, "the Holy Ghost Power," etc. Uses the name Jesus and(Yahshua)< which is incorrect. Believes all should meet in home churches and live in Christian communities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The other was 119ministriees.com which is of interest. As the person who wrote asking me about this group stated, "They seem to be full of double speak, but their presentation is shinier. They do like Paul Washer for his straightforwardness, but Washer would most likely distance himself from them."

IN their double speak on the What is the Gospel they say this:

Quote:Though we consider Washer's presentation an accurate reflection of the gospel (salvation through faith by grace) and he also accurately presents obedience as evidence of our faith (thus outward obedience and inward faith must co-exist if it is true inward faith), Washer does not yet teach obedience to the whole Word as does 119 Ministries. (Paul does not teach obdience dietary commandments, Sabbath, etc.) This is not evident in Washer's teaching, but we want to avoid any confusion through this disclaimer. 119 Ministries subscribes to the same gospel, but teaches obedience all of the commandments of God instead of just some of them. Also, though Christ and the cross is certainly a massive part of the gospel (good news), the WHOLE gospel is the WHOLE Word of God, which is truly "good news" for all.
119ministries.com/what-is-the-gospel-

So what they say is, what Washer said is good, but he's really not accurate at all. "Washer does not yet teach obedience to the whole Word as does 119 Ministries" . And then they change the Gospel message. Icon_new_shocked

The reason Washer would likely not be teaching keeping the Sinai covenant is because Jesus nailed those commandments to the cross and we are under the NEW Covenant. As has been discussed on many threads here and in many articles.

"but teaches obedience all of the commandments of God instead of just some of them"

119ministries does not 'teach obedience' but rather their spew of 'renewed covenant' and being under the law---and which of them is abiding and keeping the Sinai covenant as God directed as they claim---with no Temple? with our Passover Lamb, Jesus Christ, who gave the final sacrifice. Are they sacrificing animals for sin etc, which is now contrary to Christ and if not, they are in fact teaching contrary to the Sinai covenant. No

Here's some links dealing with their claim about keeping all the commandments, the feasts etc.

Does Jesus bring a new Torah with the New Covenant? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=29
Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=37
Was that a Renewed Covenant or New Covenant http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=12
Hebrew Roots FAQS & Myths http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=583
Two House theology > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=485 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=251
Are We Commanded to Observe the Mosaic Law [Torah]? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=61
The Ephraimite movement? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=71

and there's so much more. 119ministries was a puzzler because some of the rhetoric sounded so familiar, and I couldn't help but think Brad Scott and Rico Cortez, but the leadership have hidden their names from a cursory read of "aboutus" and their publishings fall under "119ministries". However. Why should it not be a surprise that it is the same old same old. Smiley-danger

If one reviews their domain registration information we can see in the site profile in the meta keywords, the following > http://whois.domaintools.com/119ministries.com >>>
Quote:torah, law, truth, word, bible, christian, yahweh, yhwh, yhvh, yeshua, yahsuah, teaching, passion for truth, rico cortez, brad scott, scot dryer, bill cloud, jim staley, wildbranch, love, light, way, truth, life, psalm 119, freedom, liberty, paul, jesus, god, father, son

So we have, "passion for truth, rico cortez, brad scott, scot dryer, bill cloud, jim staley, wildbranch" listed in their tags plus the alternate name of testeverything.net. Plus Mark Biltz, Hebrew for Nations radio, Truth2u radio, they have andrew roths junk, and there's other names connected to them, but the group above is apparently the 'leadership'.

And then perusing the website itself things like this pop up and particularly the blog.

Quote:RSS Feeds:Exploring Difficult Commands - A Letter to Dr. Laura - PART 2 by Brad Scott (5 days ago)

I couldn't find anywhere on their site, where it actually showed upfront and openly, who 119ministries leadership actually were. Noooooo

2Co 8:21 Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.

If you want to do a google search --run it like this and it shows them in 119ministries website > 119ministries + rico cortes + jim staley + brad scott + scott dryer + bill cloud

Looks like these characters have all the tech and flash to attempt to draw people to them - likely due to using the GLC, Jim Staley on World Net Daily, Bill Cloud hits the Christian arena with Perry Stone, prophecy groups etc, etc--they are fully utilizing all media and now giving the appearance of doing giveaways---with people able to support them by donations and buy their products as well. They do sell their stuff also.

Jim Staley see > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=889
Brad Scott > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=379
Bill Cloud > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=381
Rico Cortes or Rico Cortez > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=375

What a little empire they are attempting to build and their teachings include the Greater Exodus that Monte Judah was first spouting--and which his teaching of it on their site is linked directly to false prophet Monte Judah's site. > .119ministries.com/the-end-of-days-series/view/6419/the-greater-exodus

For Monte Judah see: Monte Judah, Kabbalist, False Prophet & False Prophecies http://www.seekgod.ca/montejudah.htm
Part 2: Monte Judah's False Prophecies http://www.seekgod.ca/montejudah2.htm

And just like Monte Judah, They are promoting making little communities on acreages people are encouraged to buy and where families can be autonomous but have the community. Birds of a feather... They even had a video from Michael Rood-Truth and Tradition, but it's missing, maybe because of his latest split with Glen McWilliams--although that shouldn't make a difference since it happens so often. And he's a proven false prophet also...

For Michael Rood see > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=343 http://www.seekgod.ca/topichrministries.htm#michael

They claim that all of their teachings are free on site.
Quote:ALL of our teachings are ALWAYS made available for free on our website. We will NEVER charge to teach the Word. We just ask that you TEST what we teach. Also, use our teachings (authored and produced by 119 Ministries) in any capacity you would like. We do not believe in copyrighting our material. It is to serve you, not us, thus, no copyright. Donations and support welcomed, but not required. Shalom!

Well that really isn't a big concession is it? Isn't it common for most ministries to provide some written content for people to read? with many hoping to snag donations and tithes through that and others by selling their hard copies, written, audio and dvd's etc?

And it's sort of like the gang's all here, because then we have them selling Jeff Benners Ancient Hebrew chart. Now currently he has added a few columns including Greek to his Ancient hebrew chart. However, as far back as July 25, 2011, we see the chart that is being sold in the Merchandise section of 119ministries > http://web.archive.org/web/2011072500490...chart.html versus 119ministries.com/inc/sdetail/2145/2202
"Ancient Eberiyt (Hebrew) Alphabet Chart - Laminated This is a complete laminated ancient Hebrew alphabet chart that can be used as a resource for your studies.
Price: $2.25

How odd when Jeff Benner states on his chart page the following:

Quote:Copyright © 1999-2007 Ancient Hebrew Research Center Please feel free to use, copy or distribute any material on this site for non-profit educational purposes only.

So they want to give the appearance of giving away their teachings---at least some of them--while selling others and selling Benner's chart, which I suppose is supposed to be free.

For Jeff Benner see > known as Nomad Man in the thread Translational Inconsistencies http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=58 and a search will show other threads

119 ministries is Two House and Hebrew Roots fringe meets Christianity and everything in between because they have honed their sales pitch, and on initial inspection, they appear to have removed a lot of the HR/ Two House buzz words. But it does come out as they expound their various heresies. Oh the tangled web they weave. 5068

Quote:We find that continuously examining the Scriptures (in the same Hebraic first century context and perspective in which they were written and understood) reveals to His people much more understanding, as opposed to the more common Greek mindset that is a couple thousand years removed...Through the leading and teaching of the Spirit we aim to bring 100% pure truth to all nations, teaching them to obey everything He commanded...
119ministries.com/about-us-contact-us

Same old Hebrew roots, must have hebraic mindset not Greek mindset, as they have always spewed. Sign0164
See The Spreading Hebrew Roots Series > http://www.seekgod.ca/spreadingroots.htm; also Hebrew Roots/Hebraic Roots/Messianic > http://www.seekgod.ca/topichr.htm

As if the Holy Spirit was dependent on these characters to bring in some 'new revelation' because no one else could possibly understand the Scriptures without them. 5522
What do the Scriptures say:

1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
1Jn 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

15249]]> I was asked about two ministries today.

One was straitwaytruth.com with a Charles Dowell, who is a combination of Hebrew Roots, Israelite community (believes original Israelites were all black) sabbatarian, under the law, charismatic deliverance, healings, tongues, "the Holy Ghost Power," etc. Uses the name Jesus and(Yahshua)< which is incorrect. Believes all should meet in home churches and live in Christian communities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The other was 119ministriees.com which is of interest. As the person who wrote asking me about this group stated, "They seem to be full of double speak, but their presentation is shinier. They do like Paul Washer for his straightforwardness, but Washer would most likely distance himself from them."

IN their double speak on the What is the Gospel they say this:

Quote:Though we consider Washer's presentation an accurate reflection of the gospel (salvation through faith by grace) and he also accurately presents obedience as evidence of our faith (thus outward obedience and inward faith must co-exist if it is true inward faith), Washer does not yet teach obedience to the whole Word as does 119 Ministries. (Paul does not teach obdience dietary commandments, Sabbath, etc.) This is not evident in Washer's teaching, but we want to avoid any confusion through this disclaimer. 119 Ministries subscribes to the same gospel, but teaches obedience all of the commandments of God instead of just some of them. Also, though Christ and the cross is certainly a massive part of the gospel (good news), the WHOLE gospel is the WHOLE Word of God, which is truly "good news" for all.
119ministries.com/what-is-the-gospel-

So what they say is, what Washer said is good, but he's really not accurate at all. "Washer does not yet teach obedience to the whole Word as does 119 Ministries" . And then they change the Gospel message. Icon_new_shocked

The reason Washer would likely not be teaching keeping the Sinai covenant is because Jesus nailed those commandments to the cross and we are under the NEW Covenant. As has been discussed on many threads here and in many articles.

"but teaches obedience all of the commandments of God instead of just some of them"

119ministries does not 'teach obedience' but rather their spew of 'renewed covenant' and being under the law---and which of them is abiding and keeping the Sinai covenant as God directed as they claim---with no Temple? with our Passover Lamb, Jesus Christ, who gave the final sacrifice. Are they sacrificing animals for sin etc, which is now contrary to Christ and if not, they are in fact teaching contrary to the Sinai covenant. No

Here's some links dealing with their claim about keeping all the commandments, the feasts etc.

Does Jesus bring a new Torah with the New Covenant? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=29
Did Peter's Vision of the Sheet Mean People & Food? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=37
Was that a Renewed Covenant or New Covenant http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=12
Hebrew Roots FAQS & Myths http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=583
Two House theology > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=485 http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=251
Are We Commanded to Observe the Mosaic Law [Torah]? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=61
The Ephraimite movement? http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=71

and there's so much more. 119ministries was a puzzler because some of the rhetoric sounded so familiar, and I couldn't help but think Brad Scott and Rico Cortez, but the leadership have hidden their names from a cursory read of "aboutus" and their publishings fall under "119ministries". However. Why should it not be a surprise that it is the same old same old. Smiley-danger

If one reviews their domain registration information we can see in the site profile in the meta keywords, the following > http://whois.domaintools.com/119ministries.com >>>
Quote:torah, law, truth, word, bible, christian, yahweh, yhwh, yhvh, yeshua, yahsuah, teaching, passion for truth, rico cortez, brad scott, scot dryer, bill cloud, jim staley, wildbranch, love, light, way, truth, life, psalm 119, freedom, liberty, paul, jesus, god, father, son

So we have, "passion for truth, rico cortez, brad scott, scot dryer, bill cloud, jim staley, wildbranch" listed in their tags plus the alternate name of testeverything.net. Plus Mark Biltz, Hebrew for Nations radio, Truth2u radio, they have andrew roths junk, and there's other names connected to them, but the group above is apparently the 'leadership'.

And then perusing the website itself things like this pop up and particularly the blog.

Quote:RSS Feeds:Exploring Difficult Commands - A Letter to Dr. Laura - PART 2 by Brad Scott (5 days ago)

I couldn't find anywhere on their site, where it actually showed upfront and openly, who 119ministries leadership actually were. Noooooo

2Co 8:21 Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.

If you want to do a google search --run it like this and it shows them in 119ministries website > 119ministries + rico cortes + jim staley + brad scott + scott dryer + bill cloud

Looks like these characters have all the tech and flash to attempt to draw people to them - likely due to using the GLC, Jim Staley on World Net Daily, Bill Cloud hits the Christian arena with Perry Stone, prophecy groups etc, etc--they are fully utilizing all media and now giving the appearance of doing giveaways---with people able to support them by donations and buy their products as well. They do sell their stuff also.

Jim Staley see > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=889
Brad Scott > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=379
Bill Cloud > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=381
Rico Cortes or Rico Cortez > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=375

What a little empire they are attempting to build and their teachings include the Greater Exodus that Monte Judah was first spouting--and which his teaching of it on their site is linked directly to false prophet Monte Judah's site. > .119ministries.com/the-end-of-days-series/view/6419/the-greater-exodus

For Monte Judah see: Monte Judah, Kabbalist, False Prophet & False Prophecies http://www.seekgod.ca/montejudah.htm
Part 2: Monte Judah's False Prophecies http://www.seekgod.ca/montejudah2.htm

And just like Monte Judah, They are promoting making little communities on acreages people are encouraged to buy and where families can be autonomous but have the community. Birds of a feather... They even had a video from Michael Rood-Truth and Tradition, but it's missing, maybe because of his latest split with Glen McWilliams--although that shouldn't make a difference since it happens so often. And he's a proven false prophet also...

For Michael Rood see > http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=343 http://www.seekgod.ca/topichrministries.htm#michael

They claim that all of their teachings are free on site.
Quote:ALL of our teachings are ALWAYS made available for free on our website. We will NEVER charge to teach the Word. We just ask that you TEST what we teach. Also, use our teachings (authored and produced by 119 Ministries) in any capacity you would like. We do not believe in copyrighting our material. It is to serve you, not us, thus, no copyright. Donations and support welcomed, but not required. Shalom!

Well that really isn't a big concession is it? Isn't it common for most ministries to provide some written content for people to read? with many hoping to snag donations and tithes through that and others by selling their hard copies, written, audio and dvd's etc?

And it's sort of like the gang's all here, because then we have them selling Jeff Benners Ancient Hebrew chart. Now currently he has added a few columns including Greek to his Ancient hebrew chart. However, as far back as July 25, 2011, we see the chart that is being sold in the Merchandise section of 119ministries > http://web.archive.org/web/2011072500490...chart.html versus 119ministries.com/inc/sdetail/2145/2202
"Ancient Eberiyt (Hebrew) Alphabet Chart - Laminated This is a complete laminated ancient Hebrew alphabet chart that can be used as a resource for your studies.
Price: $2.25

How odd when Jeff Benner states on his chart page the following:

Quote:Copyright © 1999-2007 Ancient Hebrew Research Center Please feel free to use, copy or distribute any material on this site for non-profit educational purposes only.

So they want to give the appearance of giving away their teachings---at least some of them--while selling others and selling Benner's chart, which I suppose is supposed to be free.

For Jeff Benner see > known as Nomad Man in the thread Translational Inconsistencies http://www.seekgod.ca/forum/showthread.php?tid=58 and a search will show other threads

119 ministries is Two House and Hebrew Roots fringe meets Christianity and everything in between because they have honed their sales pitch, and on initial inspection, they appear to have removed a lot of the HR/ Two House buzz words. But it does come out as they expound their various heresies. Oh the tangled web they weave. 5068

Quote:We find that continuously examining the Scriptures (in the same Hebraic first century context and perspective in which they were written and understood) reveals to His people much more understanding, as opposed to the more common Greek mindset that is a couple thousand years removed...Through the leading and teaching of the Spirit we aim to bring 100% pure truth to all nations, teaching them to obey everything He commanded...
119ministries.com/about-us-contact-us

Same old Hebrew roots, must have hebraic mindset not Greek mindset, as they have always spewed. Sign0164
See The Spreading Hebrew Roots Series > http://www.seekgod.ca/spreadingroots.htm; also Hebrew Roots/Hebraic Roots/Messianic > http://www.seekgod.ca/topichr.htm

As if the Holy Spirit was dependent on these characters to bring in some 'new revelation' because no one else could possibly understand the Scriptures without them. 5522
What do the Scriptures say:

1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
1Jn 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.

1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
1Co 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Co 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

15249]]>