Shepherding & Charismatic Movements
Roots, The Four Waves & Their Roots
33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
It was Charles Parham who originally
used the term Latter Rain, not William Branham over 40 years
later, as many are taught. Parham instigated the teaching
that a secondary ‘baptism’ by the Holy Spirit was necessary
and that speaking in foreign tongues was the evidence. This
teaching was repeatedly proven wrong as Parham's disciples went
to foreign lands expecting to immediately speak the language. No
one could understand a word they spoke.
To our understanding, what took place at
Pentecost was a gifting of languages, as those in attendance
spoke the wonderful things of God and every person heard in
their own language. Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 14:21-22 of the
purpose of tongues or languages, “In the
law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will
I speak unto this people, and yet for all that they will not
hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not
to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but
prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them
addresses the idea of all in a church speaking tongues,
something advocated by Peter Wagner and supported by Billy
Graham. v.23 "If
therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and
all speak tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned,
or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?" See:
Lying Signs &
failure and false teaching caused a needed redefinition of the
secondary baptism evidence of having the Holy Spirit to simply
mean, speaking in tongues. Parham was a hypocrite as well, in
that he had not received the Holy Spirit by his own definition,
that being tongues, before preaching it as necessary evidence.
were never told to seek tongues as required evidence of having
the Holy Spirit. On the contrary, tongues is listed as the least
of the Holy Spirits gifting's and as with all gifts, given as He
sees fit. All giftings were for the profit of the Body,
including the gift of languages or tongues. To have tongues
was also to have someone that could interpret, otherwise it was
pointless, because no one is edified unless something can be
This understanding of tongues does not negate the Scripture of 1 Corinthians 14:13-15
"Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will
sing with the understanding also."
One must be able to understand what is being said, privately or in a group, publicly speaking or praying, for it to be beneficial to anyone. Verse 39
"Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues."
Tongues, that is, speaking or praying in other languages, can never be forbidden, but there must be understanding for that language or it is going against what God himself said about the
purpose of tongues and all gifts from Him. Further, verse 37 states, "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord."
We speak in English, but it would be pointless to speak or pray in English to a crowd of Chinese only speaking people. It would go against the Scriptures.
None that embrace tongues in any of these movements can explain why no one, not even themselves, can understand what they say.
Corinthians 14:5 "I would that ye all spake with
tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that
prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he
interpret, that the church may receive edifying."
fact is, every person who accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and
Savior has the Holy Spirit. That "evidence" is found
in the Word of God.
8:9-10 “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so
be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not
the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in
you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life
because of righteousness.”
Corinthians 3:16 “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God,
and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
Doug Dugan of the Fellowship Baptist Church in Mount Joy,
Pennsylvania, asks the question, "If
speaking in tongues is the evidence of the fulness of the spirit
then my question is what spirit? Because the devil’s crowd is filled with a spirit that
moves them to speak in tongues too!"
his article, "The Scriptural View of the Modern Day Tongues
Movement" he states: "The modern
day tongues movement has the element of excitement, but it lacks
the element of Bible authority. Though some erroneously claim that speaking in the
unknown tongue is the evidence of the fulness of the Holy Spirit
they do err in not knowing the Scriptures. The use of tongues in the Bible was always the use of
known languages." Pastor
Dugan's Scriptural analysis of tongues can be read
in the following article: "The
Scriptural View of the Modern Day Tongues Movement"
Pentecostals like Jack Hayford have changed their definition on
tongues, having originally demanded tongues as evidence of the
Holy Spirit. “…[Hayford] also refrains
from demanding tongues as a proof of Spirit baptism, and instead
presents "spiritual language" as a "divine and
desirable provision to assist every believer ..."
…(Reported in the 8/17/92 Christianity Today , the 3/15/93
Calvary Contender , and the 3/8/93 Christian News…” 72
Smith had been openly supportive of tongues and signs and
wonders with Lonnie Frisbee and also through his previous
association with Foursquare Churches and the Vineyard. He now
suggests tongues are acceptable in private. In his 1982
book Charisma vs. Charismania, Chuck Smith teaches that the
of tongues" (i.e., blurting out gibberish in a
formal church service) makes one a "charismaniac," but
speaking in tongues as a private prayer language is not only
acceptable, but encouraged and an enjoyable
However, according to adherents and others who have left Calvary
Chapels, tongues and signs and wonders continue at CC in Bible
studies and after regular services.
is a problem with this tongues as a private language business.
It supposedly comes from the Holy Spirit, with many Pentecostals
and Charismatics claiming it is the Biblical intercession of the
Spirit helping them to pray, many basing it on:
8:22-27, specifically, v
23, “…even we ourselves groan within ourselves…” v.26,27
“Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know
not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself
maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be
uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the
mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the
saints according to the will of God.”
from tongues being languages used to bring people to the saving
grace of Jesus Christ, we
see the key to the issue as, “ the
Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which
cannot be uttered." and "the mind of the Spirit."
If something cannot be uttered—it cannot pass through our lips
and be spoken, since to ‘utter’ means to ‘speak,
express’, and so on.
said in 1 Corinthians 12:4-6, that
"...there are diversities of gifts,
but the same Spirit" and that
each and every gift was for the purpose of edifying all--not
only one individual v.7 "But
the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit
withal." Hence, the idea that
a "private language" from a gift specifically
used for the edification of all, does not align with Scripture.
while many are declaring the manifestations of Toronto
'Blessing,' Pensacola and the Charismatic movement to be
demonic, those manifestations always and foremost include
tongues. Either all the manifestations are of God or all are of
Satan--but we cannot pick and choose which ones we'd like to
keep, because they are coming from the same spirit.
Timothy 6: 20-21 "O Timothy, keep that which is
committed to thy trust, avoid vain and profane
babblings, and oppositions to science [gnosticism]
falsely so called: Which some professing have erred
concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen"
As mentioned, since the
purpose of all God's gifts was for the edification of the Body, the purpose of tongues as
described in 1 Corinthians 14:21-22 was, "...With men of other tongues
and other lips will
I speak unto this people, .... Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not
to them that believe, but to them that believe not:...,"
Acts 10:46 "For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,"
The King James version has added a comma between tongues and magnify changing the meaning. The original Greek does not have the comma which means that the verse
should be understood as "...heard them speak with tongues and magnify God..."
know that the purpose of tongues cannot change. Why, because God has no
variableness as shown in James
"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
In other words, declaring that
private prayer language is just an extension of the gift of tongues, or an extension of incoherent babbling in a congregation or an entirely different form of tongues, does not match the Scripture for the purpose of
tongues. No variableness in God or His gifts means that there will be no change
from their Scriptural purpose.
Since the concept of developing a new type
of Mystic is the goal for enabling the embracement of the One-World Religion, it
is important to understand the root of the manifestations themselves. It's been discussed in such articles as Sins
of the 'father~ Charles F. Parham and The
'god' In Every Man, that the manifestations found in the Charismatic/
Pentecostal/Vineyard movements are the same as found in mysticism,
witchcraft and shamanism and that the roots of these movements and people
involved were contrary to Scripture.
There are many, while perhaps rejecting
the more offensive manifestations of the Charismatic's, like barking or biting, cling to glossolalia
as an acceptable evidence of having the Holy Spirit, or hang on to it as a
private prayer language. Many might reject any of the moves, but cling to
the other. Many will admit that even though they now reject the
Charismatic movement and its other manifestations, they fully believe that the
tongues that they have embraced was a gift of the Holy Spirit. However, they also
admit having received the manifestation of tongues while involved in the
Catholic Charismatic or other movements they now reject, some receiving it with
the laying on of hands. Others view all the moves as of God, and reject any of
the facts in these articles.
Many cannot understand that those
who love the Lord do not need that show of a manifestation, but rather, we are
to walk by faith, not by sight. Some seem to believe that those who haven't
received the manifestation of tongues, will eventually, as their belief hinges on
the idea that it is part of the upward movement of growing in Christ. There are
those who unknowingly are clinging to the Fire Baptism/Holiness teachings that
suggest that unless one speaks in tongues, they haven't received the baptism of
the Holy Spirit, a concept which has been foundational to Pentecostalism.
Association of Fundamentalists Evangelizing Catholics (AFEC)
Pentecostals believe that Baptism is necessary for
salvation and that eternal life may be lost due to sin
in ones personal life. Speaking in tongues is often said
to be the evidence of Salvation. AFEC¹s position does
not allow speakers from denominations teaching these
doctrine to participate in its conferences. Howbeit,
individual men in these Churches may take a differing
position from that of their denomination, yet their
participation condones not only the individual but also
the Church group and its fallacious doctrines. Those in
AFEC choose to "come out and be ye separate"
from all erroneous doctrine no matter who the messenger
may be….A denomination which believes in works to be
saved or to maintain salvation is as lost as the Roman
Catholic people we are seeking to bring to Christ. A
denomination which believes that speaking in tongues is
a necessary part of or the evidence of salvation has
fallen into the same trap as Romanism. THINGS whether
Tongues or Sacraments are not necessary for Salvation.
Giving approval to Pentecostal or Charismatic
participants condones their Church and the errors that
accompany them,… The statement that most ex-Catholics
were in the Pentecostal or Charismatic denominations
could mean that they still need salvation. Carlo Caputo,
an ex-Catholic, ex-Pentecostal member of AFEC notes,
"it therefore becomes imperative that the plain
Gospels be preached to all, especially those who claim
to be saved and yet continue to associate themselves
with unbiblical positions that contradict the doctrines
of salvation, e.g., Romanism and
Pentecostalism."…. (Prepared by Frank Eberhardt,
Treasurer, A.F.E.C.)” 77.
In the article
In Disguise" we showed that the very purpose of the Charismatic
movement was to prepare people for the embracement of "Pentecostal
Manifestations." The manifestations in the Charismatic movement then became a target
for exposing the blatant and to many observers, offensive behaviors, with many ministries using that error to
promote their analysis and brand of what is right, i.e. conservative pentecostalism.
The purpose appears to be for all in Christendom to be able
to accept and eventually embrace the more conservative manifestations of the
Pentecostal movement, which are matched in the occult.
However, as we've discussed in our other articles, tongues is the foremost
manifestation pushed for acceptance.
Scriptural View of Tongues
dialogue with a former charismatic, dealing with tongues, see: Memorable
Experience of tongues
* Marcus Bach, The Inner Ecstasy;
The World Publishing Company, New York and Cleveland; 1969
73. Charisma vs.Charismania ,
Chuck Smith, Harvest House Publishers, 1983, p. 113, 110
77. Association of Fundamentalists
Evangelizing Catholics Resolution on Ex Catholics For Christ (renamed
Reaching Catholics for Christ) and Separation http://www.angelfire.com/ky/dodone/Reso.html
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