MJAA Inroads of
The Hebrew Roots Fringe
2 Timothy 4:2-5
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
The MJAA states, "(MJAA) is the largest
association of Messianic Jewish believers in Yeshua (Jesus) in the world." Dan
Juster has just recently
published a statement after meeting with
Monte Judah and Eddie Chumney. Monte
Judah, who in the past has promoted false prophecy, is also a promoter of Two House Theology, as is
Chumney. Both have been speakers at Moshe
Koniuchowsky's Your Arms to Israel (YATI)
conferences, or the Wooten's Messianic Israel conferences. For example:
"The MIA Ami 2000
conference...Speakers will include Angus and Batya Wootten, Ralph Messer, Rene'
Bloch, Moshe Konichowsky, David and Natalie Pavlik, Monte
Judah, Randy and Lori Dryer, Mordechai Silver, David Barsky, Scott
Diffenderfer, Hale Harris, Carl Parker, Phil Davis, Pam Staley, Eddie Chumney,
and a host of others...."http://www.mim.net/Events/AMI_2000_Info.html.;
from Eddie Chumney's Hebroots Site, with hotlinks
/ JEWISH ROOTS AND MESSIANIC MINISTRIES
Joining the GLOBAL Hebraic
Roots Network > Chumney
Hebraic Heritage Ministries
Int'l > Chumney
Rabbi Moshe Koniuchowsky:
Your Arms to Israel
Union of Two House Messianic
Congregations > Koniuchowsky
Judah: Lion and Lamb Ministries
Messianic Israel (House of
SANJ: Society for the
Advancement of Nazarene Judaism > James Trimm.
Rabbi Moshe Joseph Koniuchowsky: The Two Houses of
Rabbi Moshe Koniuchowsky:
Your Arms to Israel website
Union of Two House
Article: The Full
Restoration of Israel
Article: The Ongoing
Reunion of All Israel
Article: The End Time
Solution to Replacement Theology!
Article: What Judaism
Really Says about Joseph's Seed
Article: The Mystery of
the Olive Tree
Article: One Hundred
and Eighty Degrees Apart: An Expose on British
BOOK: The Truth About All
Israel (Adobe Acrobat Reader Required)
CHAT ROOM: Two Houses of
Note: Since posting the
various articles, the name of Union of Two House Messianic Congregations has
been changed to : Union Of Nazarene Yisraelite Congregations, as of
October 26, 2003
was told specifically that Two House theology is "fringe" Messianic
theology. The MJAA has posted a position paper against it. The statement's about the Two House movement's
representatives meeting with Dan Juster are posted at Chumney's site:
Dan Juster's reply, dated July 18th, "DAN
JUSTER REPLY TO EDDIE CHUMNEY AND MONTE JUDAH'S POSITION PAPER ON THE TWO
HOUSES OF ISRAEL", is also posted at the link.
the bottom of the page about the recent meeting and posted statements
between Chumney, Monte Judah and Dan Juster, is the link to Chumneys' home page
and also LION AND LAMB MINISTRIES / MONTE JUDAH >http://www.lionlamb.net/.
appearances both Chumney and Judah share this link.
Chumney promotes the Jerusalem School of Synoptic
Research, the Chabad
Lubavitch and their kabbalistic teachings, which is mentioned
in connection with David
Hall and Michael Rood and Moshe
Koniuchowsky. Chumney also promotes the writings of
Yair Davidy's Brit Am, Lost Tribes, and so on. See: the Seek God articles Kabbalah
Kabbalah, for Chabad Lubavitch teachings,
kabbalah and zohar. More on Chumney later.
on the Lion and Lamb website we see the same promotion:
REGARDING THE MEETING BETWEEN
MONTE JUDAH AND EDDIE CHUMNEY WITH DAN JUSTER
HELD MARCH 27, 2003 IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA
Click Here For Details
www.lionlamb.net/Two House Paper/03-27-03 TwoHouseMeeting.html
Michael Rood has been a
part of the Two House repertoire of speakers for such events as
Moshe Koniuchowsky's Your Arms to Israel
International (YATI) Hodu's etc., which are proponents of Two
House theology. See also: Marshall
Avi ben Mordechai; and the Series:
Spreading Hebrew Roots.
It should be noted
of A Rood Awakening, had befriended the late Reggie White, and it
was reported in the mainstream media that prior to his death,
Reggie, who had decided to no longer call himself a Christian,
had also been studying Hebrew and Torah with the Karaite,
Nehemiah Gordon. Monte Judah, with his Torah teachings, claims
to also have helped Reggie White change the direction and focus
of his beliefs, from Christianity to the first five books of the
Bible. Also noted in:
Raiders of the Lost Book
Equals Raiders of Nothing of
Michael Rood of A Rood
Awakening and Nehemia Gordon,
US Speaking Tour
Michael Rood, Sky Angel , Ron Wyatt & The
National Religious Broadcasters
In 2002, promoting Monte Judah,
proponent of Two House doctrine, and selling his tapes, it was
noted that while Michael Rood was supporting Monte Judah, Monte
Judah was supporting Michael Rood.
Additional Teaching Materials we recommend,
From Monte Judah...
Monte is a very good Torah teacher and adds a "Jewish insight"
into teaching we often miss with our "Western" background. We
hope you enjoy these teachings! Monte also supports Michael's
ministry! [2002> 6001.com/update1.htm]
On that promotion for Monte Judah and
Michael Rood, two teachings were featured with the first one of
Monte Judah's teachings, which included the occult teaching of
kabbalah, and was shown as this:
Teaches the four (4) levels of Torah Study.
P'saht - Plain
Drash - Study, Sermon
Remez - Hidden, Secret
Sod - Mysterious
4 tape Audio Set
This teaching provides a good beginning to a lifetime of study
for the 1st five books of the Bible. Suggested Donation $20
The acronym for the four
levels of study Monte Judah was teaching, is called PaRDeS and
is based in kabbalistic teaching.
Many are teaching that one must also utilize "PaRDes
as a tool for Torah study," with the qualifier, "that this would be within
normative rabbinic Judaism (and should be in ours), not necessarily just
Kaballah, that is why the rule for being 40 years of age and extensively
schooled in Torah was the original prerequisite for understanding Sod." and in
order to understand the meaning of the Scriptures. However, kabbalah will be
discussed and it needs to be understood that Pardes is an acronym for the
understanding of Scriptures via kabbalistic means.
It's noteworthy that an article published in
the final print edition of the Jerusalem Perspective, written by David
Bivin of the Jerusalem School of Synoptic Research (JSSR) and who is so popular within the Hebrew Roots movement, is
not accepted by many within the Hebrew Roots or Messianic movements or
Christians embracing these teachings, because of their not understanding or
denying the source of kabbalah or Pardes:
students of the Kabbalah speak of Pardes ...which is an acronym
derived from the initial letter of each of the four terms (p-r-d-s)....According
to the late Professor Gershom Scholem, pioneer researcher in the field of
Kabbalah, Moses ben Shem Tov of Leon was the first known writer to mention
the acronym Pardes. He did so about 1290 in a composition called Sefer
Pardes. Moses ben Shem Tov also wrote The Zohar, which became the most
influential work of the Spanish Kabbalists...The
Kabbalists were mystics par excellence, and they pursued vigorously
Scripture's concealed meanings. They aspired to an elevated spiritual
awareness by gaining access to concealed knowledge through scrutinizing each
letter of the biblical text and through ecstatic ascents into heaven...Their
longing for esoteric knowledge may be traced back in part to earlier Gnostic
speculations. Such speculations left their imprints on the Kabbalah...The
acronym Pardes belongs exclusively to the domain of the Kabbalah.”
Quoted from an article titled:
“Medieval Jargon on First-century Lips”
Author: David Bivin
July-September 1999 #56
A book published in 1984 by David Bivin (Director
of the JSSR) and Roy Blizzard has formed the basis of much
Hebrew Roots' doctrine. The following excerpts from Understanding
The Difficult Words Of Jesus represent the JSSR viewpoint on the
lack of originality of the Greek New Testament:
reasons for writing this book are not only to show that the
original gospel was communicated in the Hebrew language; but to
show that the entire New Testament can only be understood from a
Hebrew perspective. 2.
cannot be overemphasised, that the key to an understanding of
the New Testament is a fluent knowledge of Hebrew and an
intimate acquaintance with Jewish history, culture, and Rabbinic
Christ is identified by the JSSR as being "like
other Jewish sages of that time". Please see
Jacob Prasch & The Jerusalem School of Synoptic Research
for more on the JSSR.
For $5 one could purchase Monte Judah's
audio tape "The Two House Teaching" amongst 23 audios of Monte
Judah's teachings in the 6001.com Store, with the statement, "We
have selected the BEST of Monte Judah’s teachings and are making
them available here for the First Time!
Monte Judah, a proven false
prophet, continues in the vein of 'prophet,' as stated on his
"Our mission is to provide
prophetic insight and understanding concerning the return of
Yeshua the Messiah to the Earth"
In the September/October 2005 issue of
Monte Judah's newsletter, Yavoh, he presented his teaching of
the falsehood of the book of Hebrews, and why all should reject
it and uphold the requirement to be under the Law of the Old
Testament, thereby negating the New Covenant and being saved by
grace through Jesus Christ.
For further discussion on the Keeping
the Law issue please see:
Does Obeying the
Laws and Commands of the Old Testament Please God? from John
Brad Scott - Part 4 :
Torah Observant Gentile & Under the Law ;
Tithing Is It Scriptural for New Covenant
the Law or Led by the Spirit :Introduction
Daniel Juster initially co-wrote the MJAA's
position paper on the "Ephraimite Error", or Two House theology, which includes mention of not only
the supposed fringe, but people advocated by "Mainstream" Messianics, such as
David Hargis, well discussed in the various Seek God articles.
It should be
noted that Marshall Moshe Koniuchowsky, is stated in the MJAA article as being
in leadership of the Messianic Israel Alliance (MIA). He
initially was, but is no longer part of that group. He and the Wootens parted
company. From the MJAA position papers:
The Ephraimite Error:
A Position Paper Submitted to the
International Messianic Jewish Alliance
Author: Kay Silberling, Ph.D.
Committee Members and Advisors:
Kay Silberling, Ph.D.
Daniel Juster, Th.D.
David Sedaca, M.A
"A movement alternately
known as the "Ephraimite," "Restoration of Israel,"
"Two-Covenant Israel," or "Two House" movement has
recently gained ground in some areas among ardent Christian Zionists.
Proponents of this movement contend that members of the
"born-again" segment of the Christian church are, in fact, actual
blood descendants of the biblical Israelites who were dispersed as a result of
the Assyrian invasion of the ancient kingdom of Israel in 722 B.C.E.1
The movement's proponents further argue that
these dispersed "Israelites," or "Ephraimites," whose
identities have remained undisclosed even to themselves until recent times,
primarily settled in areas now recognized as largely populated by
Anglo-Saxons. At times they argue that all Anglo-Saxons, and even all of
humanity, are descended from these lost Ephraimites. At other times, that only
born-again Christians can claim descent. In either case, Christians from
Anglo-Saxon lands, such as Great Britain, Australia, Canada, and the United
States, can feel assured that they are most likely direct blood descendants of
the ancient people of Ephraim.
It is now incumbent upon these members of
"Ephraim," they argue, to "accept their birthright" and
live as members of Israel.2
They urge Gentile Christians to keep the Torah3
in obedience to the Hebrew scriptures, to strive to re-educate Jews and other
Christians about their new, "latter-day prophecy," and to work
toward the repatriation of the land of Israel by their own number.
Primary among the movement's spokespersons
are Batya and Angus Wootten and Marshall, a.k.a. Moshe, Koniuchowsky. The
Woottens publish a newsletter entitled the House of David Herald, as well as
several books. Batya's books include In Search of Israel, The Star of David,
The Olive Tree of Israel, and Who Is Israel? And Why You Need to Know. Angus'
books include Take Two Tablets Daily, A Survey of the Ten Commandments and 613
Laws that God Gave Moses and The Messianic Vision. Other names mentioned by
Wootten are Brian Hennessy and David Hargis. Ed Chumney has written a book
entitled The Bride of Christ, which I was unable to review.4
Among the Woottens, I will deal only with Batya's writings.
Moshe Koniuchowsky leads a ministry called
"Your Arms to Israel." In addition, he has recently formed an
organization named "The Messianic Israel Alliance," which, despite
its misleading name, has no affiliation with or endorsement by the
International Messianic Jewish Alliance or any of its affiliates. The movement
is growing to the point that it now has some areas of overlap with the
Christian Zionist movement as well as the Messianic Jewish movement. As a
result of this, there are several spokespersons in both these groups who
advance this teaching while maintaining primary affiliation either as
Christian Zionists or as Messianic Jews..." 1
Due to the split of Moshe Koniuchowsky
and the Wootens, aside from his YATI organization, Marshall Koniuchowsky launched the
Union of Two House Congregations. We've already 'met' board member Tom Mitchell,
in the article, Tom
Mitchell, Board member of Union of Two House Messianic Congregations, Responds.
Besides Mitchell and Koniuchowsky, the other board member is Ed Nydle. Just to
be clear, there are Two House believers outside the beliefs of the Union of Two
House Congregations, who uphold the tenets of the Gospel, reject kabbalah and
believe in the Deity of Christ, and so on.
Taking a brief look at Ed Nydle's
teachings and website, reveals a deep promotion of kabbalistic teachings,
kabbalah websites, including the Chabad Lubavitch and quite frankly some of the most blatantly
wicked writings this writer has read in quite some time.
From denigrating the Name of
Jesus Christ to such wickedness that can hardly be related, and is found in his
articles such as his two part series, "Was Satan/Helel/Venus
"Married" to Yahweh? (2)
", and "Was Satan/Hillel/Asherath "Married" to Yahweh Pt 2
"Rabbi's" Ed Nydle,
Koniuchowsky and others apparently believe that the answer to that question is yes. In
part 2, Nydle quotes his 'brother in arms', Koniuchowsky and also Eddie Chumney
me quote from a recent e-mail listing the NEW tape series from Rabbi Moshe
Koniuchowsky dated Tuesday July 18, 2000: B-8-YAHWEH’S
Nydle goes on and states, "The purpose was to show
you that the idea of Ashterah/Lucifer/Hillel being Yahweh’s consort is NOT a
NEW concept or teaching,...Brother Eddie Chumney also hints at this idea in his
book "Who is the Bride of Christ"...." 4
Ed Nydle also wrote, which is the
common theology of those within the Union, in his article, "Who is the
"Abomination that makes Desolate?" By Rabbi Edward "Levi"
"....The answer to the question who is
the abomination is: Satan/Hillel/Ashtorah/Zeus/Baal-zebul/Tammuz/SHIQQUS
(BAAL) SHAMEN-LORD of HEAVEN or OIL= IESOUS (Jesus)! Satan/Hillel has pulled
off the greatest deception of all time. He has set himself up as the LORD of
regarding the changing of URLs and removal or change of
articles from quoted websites or source documents.
The above is Leadership of the Union of
Two House Congregations which is openly anti- Christian, against the Name and
Jesus Christ and pro-sacred name movement. They are speculating and speaking
about things concerning God that they have no knowledge of, including sourcing
the prophecies in Daniel and Revelation for their speculation. That is adding to the Words of God and
forbidden by God Himself through the very Torah they say they honor.
Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
It should be noted that the Two House
theology or British Israelism in it's varied forms, Lost Tribes, etc., is
discussed in such articles as: A
Little Identity Crisis ~ British Israelism; The
British Israel /Christian Identity Connection,
Two House theology of Judah and the
Ephraimites was for many years also taught by Herbert W. Armstrong and the World Wide
Church of God. He sourced J.H. Allan amongst others. It is not 'new' theology. There are 'two houses' in this
world that matter. Those who love Jesus Christ and those who reject Him, and that is what
people should be focused on.
proponent, Yair Davidy, openly rejects the Deity of Jesus Christ. Yet, we find
many Two House leadership and members seeking out his conferences. He's also
promoted by kabbalists such as James
Trimm. Many Two House proponents are
actually using Trimm's and other kabbalist writings, while speaking against
kabbalah. They apparently are not aware that, for example, his teaching on
PaRDeS, is actually from the kabbalah, as is the use of gematria. Some embrace
the theology of "Greater and Lesser," and so on, and also refer to
"Hamashiach ben Yosef," meaning Messiah was the son of Joseph. That
statement is sometimes used as an attempt to eliminate the Deity of Christ. He was not the son of
Joseph. He was the Son of God and in worldly terms, stepson of Joseph. Jesus Christ was God come
in the flesh.
One can't say they are against kabbalah while
teaching it's various theology. One can't have
it both ways.
James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
It should be pointed out that there are
sincere believers in Yeshua in the 'fringe' Two House movement as with the
"mainstream", who clearly stand in defense of the Deity of Jesus
Christ, the blood atonement, and other very necessary foundational issues. In
fact many, because of the groups they are moving in, have readily stood against
the denigration of the Name of Jesus Christ, which is a major movement within
the Messianic movement itself, and also the kabbalah, and have stood for the
inspiration of the Greek
New Testament. Just as in the Christian
community, the issue becomes about Christ, Biblical obedience and sound
doctrine. If doctrine is not Biblically sound, it needs to be corrected or
Daniel Juster has also written an
endorsement for false prophet, Jim Searcy, in his book, Great Joy.
Searcy's website has connections to the Prophecy Club and false
Rood, and he also promotes false prophets Ralph Stair and "Elijah," and many others. See: The
Prophecy Club & Elijah
This 368 page book will
clear up the confusion of the many unbiblical teachings concerning the
end times. Understanding the scriptures regarding the Great
Tribulation removes fear and produces Great Joy.
compendium on the tribulation is excellent."
Dr. Daniel C. Juster, President, Messiah Biblical Institute &
Graduate School of Theology" 5
Aside from his many false prophecies,
in May 2002, Stair was arrested and charged with two counts of breach of trust,
two counts of criminal sexual conduct, unlawful burying of a body without notice
or inquiry and failure to get authorization for the removal of a dead body. The
criminal sexual conduct charges included complaints of at least 70 incidents. [Press and Standard, May, June, July
2002, various dates] "Stair has also been confronted
with allegations of neglect from family members of a recently deceased follower
Stan Bean, 27. Though an autopsy revealed Bean's cause of death to be from a
cerebral herniation, his father says his son could have been saved with proper
medical care. The Overcomer Ministry does not use the services of medical
doctors." [Press and Standard, July 16, 2002]
This writer was told in August 2003, that I didn't know the
"real" Messianic leadership, although I have written about the whole
spectrum in the past, including the MJAA, and that I should go find some good links and
sources via the http://www.hebroots.org/.
Quoting statements directed at me from a Messianic forum:
HEBREW ROOTS REPS
Here is a web page with many Hebrew Roots links.. http://www.hebroots.org/
good example of what really qualifies as the "Hebrew Roots"
movement is http://www.restorationfoundation.org/
we can get an additional overview of what are really "Hebrew Roots"
folks at http://www.aihls.org/faculty.html
Quite a diverse group..
Brad Young, Marvin Wilson, Dwight Pryor, Richard Booker and Ron Mosely are all
interesting writers, some are more orthodox "Christian" in theology
(Booker), some more nuanced, but it is not fair to any of them to weigh their
views by concentrating on, or clumping with, such as Avi Ben Mordechai and
was told to go
to http://www.hebroots.org as a good
source --- Eddie Chumney's site, and yet it was stated previously from
that same Forum, that Two House teaching is fringe Messianism, which most
Messianics reject. Chumney's site
is joined with and part of the fringe ...including kabbalist Avi ben Mordechai,
James Trimm, --- all the people stated as fringe and not
mainstream Messianic Movement. For More on Avi ben Mordechai see: Avi
ben Mordechai & Millennium 7000
it is indeed curious to see people acceptable by 'Mainstream" Messianics,
listed in what is viewed as this writer's needed resource- http://www.hebroots.org
, under Chumney's -"HEBRAIC / JEWISH ROOTS CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES."
see, Brad Young, Marvin Wilson, Dwight Pryor, Richard Booker and Ron
Moseley, alongside what is called the fringe messianism of Monte Judah, Koniuchowsky, FFOZ, James
Trimm's SANJ, etc.
Two House advocate Monte Judah's Lion and Lamb site, examples of the links he
advocates, we see David Hargis's MBI listed, as well as Don Doherty, who is on their
faculty, a Sacred Name website, and many others. To be listed one
had to apply to Monte Judah and be accepted.
Trib Trooper Cinc Line is a collection of post-tribulational
websites on the Internet. ... We will contact you when
your website has been accepted.
Member Website Directory
- Lion and Lamb Ministries may not necessarily endorse the information of
the following websites, although we do share the following views:
- a.) all websites are post-tribulational in nature
- b.) all websites believe that Yeshua/Jesus is God
- c.) all websites are pro-Israel and
- Lion and Lamb Ministries reserves the right to
which websites appear in this directory.
Home Page http://www.eliyah.com/index.html
Messianic Bureau International
website is found in the Sacred Name movement and listed on such sites as:
Home Page >http://www.eliyah.com/index.shtml
The Most Well-Rounded Sacred Name Site on
HaShofar link takes one to 'Donbam's website, where one can read his biography
name is Donald Doherty and I live in Chesapeake Virginia...I am currently the
congregational Shamash or Deacon for Mishkan HaMelech...I
currently hold a Bachelor's of Messianic Studies from the Messianic Bureau
International Yeshiva, and am currently working on my Master's for Messianic
Rabbi from the same Yeshiva. I am also on staff as a Yeshiva instructor.
Doherty & MBI
Doherty has been involved with the faculty and administration of David Hargis's
MBI Yeshiva for several years.
And he co-hosts MBI's radio and chat with David Hargis,
has been a trustee for MBI Yeshiva and so on.
is the David Hargis who I've written numerous articles about, that wrote
'curriculum' for various diploma mills, operated at least 2 diploma mills, gave
himself his own doctorate; he and his mother and wife obtained their
various degrees via diploma mills, etc. And David Hargis was on the current faculty
of Saint John Chrysostom
Theological Seminary with his brother Don Hargis aka Bishop Don De Cordova
and other variations, and also with their deceased mother as faculty. That
was the 'Seminary that gave James
Trimm his 'doctorate'
were all three listed as faculty on that facade, but also on their defunct diploma mill called
Mountain West Hebrew University. Their
involvement in Saint John's goes back to at least 1991, when Don Hargis aka Don
de Cordova, David and their mother, Marian Hargis were
apparently listed in the supposed 1991 Handbook of the Seminary. That
information was supplied by James Trimm.
1991 was when David Hargis was
supposedly ordained a Messianic Rabbi and also started leading the Mishkan
HaMelech assembly. Which certainly brings
into question how a former AOG pastor could turn Messianic rabbi who provided
himself with his own doctorate, while at the same time being involved in a Catholic
seminary. In fact a News Flash was issued on July 6, 2003, which
stated the following:
July 6, 2003
MBI Yeshiva has revamped
their Faculty and removed Don B Hargis from the list. Don B. Hargis is
actually Bishop Don de Cordova or Bishop Don Bryant Hargis De Cordova or
whatever other variation he chooses to use for whatever purpose of deception.
It appears to be an attempt at damage control. However, that attempt does not
divert attention from their involvement in at least three other diploma mills,
David himself admitting writing the curriculum for the International Bible
College and Seminary, where he gave himself his own doctorate. Nor does it
negate the illegal and defunct Mountain West Hebrew University, where David,
Don and Linda and other MBI faculty were also listed...as well as their
mother Marian who had been deceased since 1999. Nor does it divert attention
from the fact of the use of worthless credentials all have claimed for at
least 20 years...nor the issuing of those worthless credentials and to not
only themselves, but others claiming to be faculty and also some of those who
have "chartered" with MBI..."
is why it is even more interesting that we see Don
Doherty having been a forum member on the Baptist Board since 2001, with
all appearance of trying to influence unsuspecting and naive Christians who
"need" their varied services and teachings. The Webmaster of
BaptistBoard.com has given permission to quote the forum correspondences
relating to Don Doherty, as necessary. From the site:
Under the thread title
DEBATE Forums (All Christians)
Religions / Doctrines » Cults that are leading Christians away from
the faith (Page 3)
The following was posted by a
Baptist Board forum member:
Don Doherty then responded, posting under his Donbam
name and revealing that he'd been involved with the Hargis's at least ten years.
Referring to my Seek God site, he stated,
Posted September 7, 2003
This was the
original link that I posted at the start of this topic:
Here is another interesting site that deals with cults:
The problem with this
first "apologetic" site, is that it's not apologetic at all. It's
full of venom and hatred for anyone who does not agree with this woman's
Member # 2325
If you are going to defend the faith, then defend it. This site and woman digs
into people's personal backgrounds, revels and posts e-mail's of people that
dis-agree with her to belittle them in a public forum, and all with the
permission of her husband.
The site is actually a gossip site.
As a Messianic Jew, I am involved with one of the ministries mentioned on the
site, and have been for well over ten years.
Not once, has this person ever contacted the ministry or those in leadership
to discuss anything at all.
Despite the fact that she denies that she is teaching anyone, the fact is just
The second site that is mentioned is at least more balanced. I don't have a
problem with the fact that they don't agree with Messianic Judaism.
There are offshoots of the movement that I don't agree with either. It's up to
me to walk out my own salvation with Yeshua, with fear and trembling, not to
gossip and degrade others with an evil speaking tounge.
I enjoy a good apologetic site, but I would suggest that people be discerning
of the spirit behind them when visiting.
Interesting that research and
reporting facts and trying the spirits are considered gossip. Doherty stated, "As a Messianic Jew, I am involved
with one of the ministries mentioned on the site, and have been for well over
ten years." That means he's claiming to be Jewish, although the Doherty
name is Irish. He's also claiming to be
part of the Hargis ventures since at least 1991, since 2001 was when the online
bio was made. That was before MBI launched and definitely before the MBI Yeshiva
was launched. It would be most interesting to know which other activities
involved in with the Hargis's, whose claim to fame appears to be family diploma
the forum member apparently recognized and exposed who he
was, mentioning that Doherty had been written about in many of the articles, Don came back with the thought that
"The information on that site is well outdated", and told the Member
that the discussion was over. 7
On the Baptist forum posting, Don seems to take issue with, "posts e-mail's of people that
dis-agree with her to belittle them in a
One can only assume Doherty is
referring to my posting the "Rabbi" Tom Mitchell's emailed venom and
my subsequent refuting of the things that were Biblically false, including his assault against the person
and Name of Jesus Christ, thereby exposing the fruitless deeds of
Mitchell wrote me and spewed forth, even though after his first email
I asked him not to write again. It can be supposed that name calling and hatred and lack of
the fruit of the Spirit, are intended to be kept hidden so the followers don't know what these people are doing in
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of
disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
In his profile on the Baptist forum,
Don Doherty lists his personal web site as being: http://www.kol-hashofar.org,
which is currently under construction but gives the link > [as of September
"This site is currently under
construction. Please visit the old site at www.geocities.com/donbam_2000.
That site has his online biography, quoted
above, and we can assume
he wants people to know who he is and his connections with the MBI and the
"...My name is Donald Doherty and I
live in Chesapeake Virginia. I attend a Messianic congregation called Mishkan
HaMelech -..." 8
Donald Doherty is also Daniel
Doherty. It should be no surprise to find yet another person involved in these
organizations using various names.
From David Hargis's MBI site, "MBI
Chartered Congregations, Synagogues, Ministries and Schools / Update
01/31/2003", we see that the Mishkan HaMelech congregation is actually
David Hargis's congregation.
"....Mishkan HaMelekh (Messianic Jewish
Congregation) / Hampton, VA / MRav. David M. Hargis & Rebbitzin Linda (Yaffa)
Kol HaShofar / Chesapeake, VA / MMin. Daniel
Aviyah Doherty & Mrs. Chava Doherty..." 9
And from the advertisement for Kol HaShofar from
Monte Judah's Lion and Lamb site,
which connects directly to the 'donbam' site:
Kol Shofar >>>My name is Donald
Doherty and I live in Chesapeake Virginia...I am currently the congregational
Shamash or Deacon for Mishkan HaMelech...I currently hold a Bachelor's of
Messianic Studies from the Messianic Bureau International Yeshiva, and am
currently working on my Master's for Messianic Rabbi from the same Yeshiva. I
am also on staff as a Yeshiva instructor.
On one of the various public kol hashofar forums--which
is the name of the congregation "Daniel" leads-- which Doherty administrates or moderates, he notes growing up in a traditional
Episcopal church with no mention of having Jewish heritage, until much later in
life, when he was Jewish and in a Messianic congregation.
(6/10/01 7:06 pm)
"...I grew up in a traditional church background. I was an
altar boy and went to an Episcopal church...After I got out in 1980, ... There
I met some people that soon became my friends. One Sunday, they went to an
Assembly of G-d church and accepted Jesus. During the next week, they told me
about it. I had always remembered liking to go to church, so I went. It was a
bit unusual coming from a traditional background, but I liked the service. The
message was good, and I felt like the pastor knew me. When they gave an altar
call, up I went.... " 10
Note---going "up"---is not a
declaration of having accepted Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. In fact the
following statement is addressed in the parable of the sower....
Matthew 13:18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful...."
Doherty continues his testimony and
"Unfortunately, it took only a matter of months before my friends and I stopped
attending and started going in the opposite direction...At some point in time,
my wife found out she was Jewish, on her grandmother's side. We were both
getting fed up with church and hearing the same message again and again...At
this point, we started looking for a Messianic Jewish congregation where we
were now living in Virginia.
...The marriage finally fell apart, with my soon to be ex-wife cursing G-d....I
kept going to the congregation... That was over ten years ago. ... Two years ago,
I met and married the one I know is my help mate....I now serve as the
congregational Shammash (deacon), and hold a Bachelor's of Messianic Studies.
I am currently working on my Master's for Messianic Rabbi. I am an ordained
Messianic Evangelist and also instruct several courses in the online Yeshiva
for Messianic Bureau International...My wife and I are both Jewish believers in Messiah,
Daniel Aviyah Doherty" 11
The "Kol HaShofar - Sound
of the Shofar" link is also found at the bottom of 'Daniel Doherty's' ezboard testimony page,
which actually also takes you to his donbam site > http://www.geocities.com/donbam_2000
In the Kol Hashofar forum's personal profile
about himself, directly linked from the Daniel Doherty testimony, Doherty also lists, "My Personal Link >
which states his name as being Donald Doherty, not Daniel.
Don Doherty aka Daniel Doherty aka Donbam is the same Don Doherty
on MBI Yeshiva's faculty and administration, radio, etc.. Please see:
I think the use of the Hargis's deceased mother on, not only
the MBI Yeshiva faculty, but St
John Chrysostom Theological Seminary and one of their other defunct diploma
mills, truly shows the character of those involved, although Doherty likely
Trying to discredit the Seek God
articles results in promoting the teachings of, for example, a
false prophet like Michael Rood, who claims he was a former "Baptist"
reverend, but then, left the "Baptist cult." That is really hardly a claim
to sound judgment, particularly when posting on a Baptist run forum. In fact, to try to discredit the analysis of a publicly
posted ministry and publicly posted "personal" information is unwise. That analysis is very much
essential as shown by the very documentation Doherty reviles.
"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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