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Phillip Arnn Email Correspondence
Email correspondence between the author and Phillip Arnn, Senior Researcher for the counter cult organization, Watchman Fellowship, regarding James Trimm.
---- Original Message -----
From: vic
To: Phillip Arnn
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:57 PM
Subject: query re james trimm
Dear Phillip,
I hope you remember our recent correspondence regarding Michael Rood. I ... have discovered that he was 7th corps in the Way, meaning he graduated Way "college" in 1979....
I am writing to ask you about another matter that connects to Michael a bit. And that is James Trimm. I am wondering what you know about his degree and education and his connection with the religious task force, as well as his doctorate which has come under fire recently. Do you know if he actually obtained a bonafide doctorate? If so, from where?
Thanks for your time.
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Arnn [mailto:parnn@####]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 4:04 PM
To: vic
Subject: Re: query re james trimm
Vic,
James does not have a doctorate. He was given a honorary degree by a chruch. It was something like the Apostokic Catholic Church. James did not go to college. His Hebrew and Aramaic are self taught. He told me he had not been able to afford college. And he told me when this church guy gave him the doctorate.
----- Original Message -----
From: vic
To: Phillip Arnn
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: query re james trimm
Dear Phillip, As I was continuing my research yesterday, I came across James Trimm's promotion of his July 2001 Nazarene.net/Yeshiva site and faculty list. In it he lists Credentials and Letters of Recommendation. Although the links are no longer valid, I am wondering if you would make a quotable statement concerning this and also what you said in the email about his not having a doctorate, etc. Was James merely being presumptuous in having your name and letter of recommendation? If so, do you have a copy of a letter that would have said anything similar to a promotion and recommendation for him or his Yeshiva? Or was James manufacturing the idea you would promote him? Based on your statement that he doesn't have a doctorate, nor college education, etc., what is going on with this? I was surprised to find this to say the least.
http://www.nazarene.net/yeshiva/faculty.htm
Dr. James Scott Trimm
President
Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism
Credentials:
Letters of Recommendation
Phillip Arnn
J.Phillip Arnold
James DeFrancisco
Rabbi Herbert J. Gilner
Transcript
Sacrae Theological Doctorate
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In connection with this, I am wondering what you know about J Phillip Arnold, of Reunion Institute. It's my understanding that he not only has worked with James but had a part in James obtaining the 'doctorate,' which is no doctorate at all. In fact, in my research I see he actually signed the diploma as the "recommending advisor." That suggests he is part of the Saint John Chrysostom Theological Seminary: Catholic Apostolic Church of North America. He is also promoted as a Doctor and as holding a PH.d, which is how he signed James' diploma.
I can find little information on Reunion Institute nor J Phillip Arnold.
Can you please help me understand who these people are, their relationship to each other and to you?
I realize that this is asking a lot. I appreciate your time, but feel this is important enough to pursue and document.
Thank you for your time in advance.
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Arnn [mailto:parnn@####]
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 1:00 PM
To: vic
Subject: Re: query re james trimm
Vic,
I am stunned and more than a little peeved at what you have just told me. I have never given James a letter of recommendation. He has never asked for one and I could not give it if he did. I need the link for this even if it is dead. I will give you an answer to the statement on Trimm and his group when I have a chance to view this material and have a chance to talk with my boss.
Phillip
----- Original Message -----
From: vic
To: Phillip Arnn
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: query re james trimm
Phillip, I had trouble sending the last email with Gilner's letter pasted in. So am going to send a couple of pics as attachments...If they are too small--that is, unclear by saving them this small, I can resend with a better enhancement.. The one is Gilners letter, the other is the transcript of James "classes" with St. Johns.
Vic
-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Arnn [mailto:parnn@####]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:06 PM
To: vic
Subject: Re: query re james trimm
Vic,
That list of courses completed is bogus. James never took those courses. He told told me De Cordova was giving him an honorary doctorate. I was in fairly close contact with James from '93 thru '95. He was working a job and trying to get something going with James Tabor. Tabor was promising to take James to the Middle East to visit old monastaries to see if they could find old manuscripts to prove James's theory that the New Testament was written in Aramaic. He made a couple of visits to Reunion to speak for Phil Arnold. There was no course work. I remember James mentioning Gilner on many occasions. I specifically remember James taunting Gilner with Zech. 12:10, ... Trimm called Gilner a conservative rabbi.
Phillip
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This exchange culminated in Phillip Arnn's "official statement" regarding James Trimm's doctorate and transcript, as sited in the article, Doctor James Trimm's Diploma
"To my knowledge, James does not have a doctorate. He was given an honorary degree by a church. It was something like the Apostolic Catholic Church. James did not go to college. His Hebrew and Aramaic are self taught. He told me he had not been able to afford college. And he told me when this church gave him the doctorate."
"To my knowledge, James never took those courses. He told me
De Cordova was giving him an honorary doctorate. I was in fairly close contact with James from '93 thru '95."
Regarding the Letter of recommendation on James Trimm's Yeshiva site, which had been unavailable for his or anyone else's perusal:
"At no time has James Scott Trimm asked me for a recommendation of himself or his ministry. And at no time have I given him a recommendation concerning his present movement and/or theology. ... It has been brought to my attention that Mr. Trimm had in the past posted such a recommendation bearing my name on his website. I can only state that no such recommendation was given."
signed, Phillip Arnn.
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