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Email's # 1 & # 2
Email #1 --from Tom Mitchell
From: Tom Mitchell [tmitchell@tribweb.com]Your
site promotes the Scripture verse, “…let no corrupt
communication proceed out of your mouth…” Yet, your
site is full of lashon harah and you call yourselves
“Christian?”
In
case you don’t know it, lashon harah means the evil
tongue. Lashon harah can be communicated by speaking,
writing, or body language. One is guilty of lashon harah
even if what he or she is saying is true. Do a complete
and thorough study of lashon harah, the review your Web
site in the light of what you have learned – then I
might suggest that you get a life. What you re promoting
is NOT in harmony with
Matthew 28:19. You should be ashamed of
yourselves!
Tom
Mitchell
RD6
My response to Email #1
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003
6:21 PM
To: Tom Mitchell
Subject: Re: Dr. Trimm, others
...1 Timothy 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine . . . 19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality 22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure . . . 24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after. 25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.
-Rabbi
Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky-Miami Beach
Florida-confirmed
-Rabbi Ed Levi Nydle-Ottumwa Iowa-confirmed
-Rabbi Mordechai Silver-Las Cruces New
Mexico-confirmed
-Rabbi Eddie Chumney-Strousberg Ohio-confirmed
-Moreh/Teacher Avi Ben Mordechai-Woodland Park
Colorado-confirmed
-Rabbi Web Hulon-Columbia South
Carolina-confirmed
-Rabbi Rob Miller-Temple Texas-confirmed
-Rabbi Rob Gordon-Portland Oregon-confirmed
-Rabbi Yochanan Mascaro-Pensacola
Florida-confirmed
-Rebbetzin Wendy McNulty-Fredericton NB
Canada-confirmed
-Rabbi Asquith Michael-Trinidad-confirmed
-Rabbi Tom
Mitchell-Kittanning Pennsylvania-confirmed
-Rabbi Paul Todd-Titusville
Florida-confirmed
-Cantor Brian Samtur-confirmed
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
****
Email # 2 From Tom Mitchell
From: Tom Mitchell [tmitchell@tribweb.com]Lashon
harah “…means nothing.” ??? Obviously – to you.
You demonstrate your basic attitude of disrespect by
referring to our
“…two
or three witnesses…” yes,
but the witnesses must be CREDIBLE. I can’t speak for
Dr. Trimm, but as for RABBI Moshe Koniuchowski or
friends, (and he is my very good friend and brother in
Messiah, and as for me and my family, we serve Almighty
Yahweh. You speak of being obedient to the Bible –
then re-read your Bible and see what it says about the
evil tongue. I have visited your so-call Web site and it
is nothing but pure lashon harah – with a small
invitation at the bottom to worship the TORAH-LESS
j-e-s-u-s you serve. We serve the TRUE Messiah of
Scripture, The Orthodox, Jewish, Rabbi who had and has a
very Hebrew Name – YAHSHUA! Get a life girl and grow
up. Repent of your witchcrafts and evil speaking, STUDY
the Scriptures you claim to read and open your alleged
mind to learning and quit your evil speaking. Ha-satan
was the accuser of the brethren – so are you – you
are in his company and from your words, he is your
master. You and your cohorts have been on this campaign
against Dr. Trimm and other for more than five years
now, don’t you think it’s time you got on with life
and started fulfilling Matt. 28:19? Your vindictive
attacks are of a purely personal nature and you do not
and cannot attack any of those mentioned from a
doctrinal stance. We will pray for you, that if you have
not committed the unpardonable sin, that Yahweh will
have mercy on you and call you to repentance. Perhaps he
will crush you spiritually so that a true woman can
emerge. And Vicky – YOU OF ALL PEOPLE DO NEED TO STUDY
LASHON HARAH – AN INDEPTH STUDY! [spelling,
bolding and capitals as seen]
Rabbi
T.
Mitchell
*****
My Response to Email #2
Sent:
Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:01 PM
To: Tom
Mitchell
Subject:
Re: RE: Dr. Trimm, others
I said, "However, I don't need to study Lashon Hara....I receive that from people on a regular basis...which means nothing."
You don't seem to understand, Tom. Jesus very clearly taught the following, which I realize you reject, but it is what I abide by.
Matthew 5:10 -11 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake
Lashon hara appears to be a veil you try to hide behind, so that who and what you people are about, remains hidden. I make no apology. I removed the veil and took a peek. To be completely honest, I'm not real impressed with what I am seeing. Heresy, blasphemy, occultism, the merchandising of believers, the lack of respect for government...the list is quite lengthy.
Being a Christian does not mean I sit idly by while the name of my Lord and Savior is pulled through the sewer of false teachings. In fact, on the contrary, we're called to stand and stand firm and expose and reprove the fruitless deeds of darkness...of which you, sadly, apparently have chosen to partake.
Tom said---“…two or three witnesses…” yes, but the witnesses must be CREDIBLE. I can’t speak for Dr. Trimm, "
You seem to be lacking information, Tom. There is NO "Dr. Trimm." There is a James Trimm, a Mr. Trimm and so on...but no Doctor Trimm.
Tom said >>>>but as for RABBI Moshe Koniuchowski or friends, (and he is my very good friend and brother in Messiah, and as for me and my family, we serve Almighty Yahweh."
Tom, I tried to show you Scripturally why being called RABBI was wrong. Perhaps, in your obvious zeal, you missed reading the Scriptures. Allow me to insert them again. Please take the time to read them, as they are really rather important for you and your fellow RABBI's. Jesus said:Matthew
23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen
of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and
enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and
the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called
of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But
be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even
Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is
your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your
Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be
your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be
abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be
exalted.
13 But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the
kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in
yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering
to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a
pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive
the greater damnation.
15 Woe
unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when
he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell
than yourselves.
16
Woe unto you, ye blind guides,...
Tom wrote >>
Tom, I already tried to explain to you, and I can be patient. This is what I said..."Choose you this day whom YOU will serve...and if it's James Trimm or Marshal Moshe Koniuchowsky, or friends, I recommend you reevaluate what Scriptures you read...and dump the HRV and ISR...and by the way, the zohar is not a companion book to the Bible." You are not getting accurate information Tom.
Tom said---
I have visited your so-call Web site and it is nothing but pure lashon harah – with a small invitation at the bottom to worship the TORAH-LESS j-e-s-u-s you serve. "Thank you so much for taking the time to read my articles, Tom. They are loaded with the Word of God and God promises that His Word will not come back void.
Oh....on the anti-nomian Jesus that you people want to blot out and destroy. There seems to be a discrepancy...I see a controversy developing. I guess you're entitled to an opinion. It would be better if it were rooted in Biblical truth and fact.
As for your assault upon my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ....
What you are doing is actually prophetic.....I suspect you didn't know that....
Tom said >>>>We serve the TRUE Messiah of Scripture, The Orthodox, Jewish, Rabbi who had and has a very Hebrew Name – YAHSHUA! "
Sorry to inform you Tom, but the name YAHshua is not found in the Old Testament. What you will find there is Yehoshua which many Messianic Jews shorten and use as Yeshua [salvation]. If you research the name "YAHshua, you will find that it came about in the 1930's, and was manufactured in error by the sacred name movement due to their lack of understanding of the Hebrew language. I would suggest that you go to the Torah Scrolls in the original Biblical Hebrew and research it for yourself, instead of listening to the opinions of others.
Tom said>>>Get a life girl and grow up. Repent of your witchcrafts and evil speaking, STUDY the Scriptures you claim to read and open your alleged mind to learning and quit your evil speaking.
Excuse
me, but only my husband calls me "girl." And
simply for your information, we've been happily
married almost 30 years. The partner of one
spouse....something that many in your Rabbi and
"Dr.", and Rood camps cannot claim. Which
flies in the face of, 1
Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless,
the husband of one wife,
vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to
hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no
striker, not greedy of
filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not
covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his
own house, having his children in subjection
with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not
how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of
the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride
he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
I'm pretty sure an occultist [kabbalist] is not qualified to determine between good and evil. However God is quite clear and He calls his people to use His Word to discern good and evil.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Ephesians
2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to
the course of this world, according to the prince of
the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in
the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in
times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the
desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by
nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great
love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened
us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6
And hath raised us up together, and made us sit
together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians
5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for
because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon
the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye
light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all
goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful
works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Colossians
3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are
upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate
affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which
is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh
on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye
lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger,
wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of
your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have
put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed
in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew,
circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian,
bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Tom
said>>>Ha-satan was the accuser of the
brethren – so are you – you are in his company and
from your words, he is your master. You and your
cohorts have been on this campaign against Dr. Trimm
and other for more than five years now,"
Tom, you and Marshall Moshe and friends seem to have a problem with math. I wrote about the kabbalists James Trimm, Avi ben Mordechai, etc in the winter and spring of 1999. It's currently 2003. Maybe in the place you live that's 5 years....but here in Canada...it's not. I don't have cohorts, but I do have brothers and sisters in the Lord who will be praying for you and your friends.
People are known by their fruit Tom. And I'm seeing an abundance of potential fertilizer in what you and your good buddies are about. Perhaps you'd like to reconsider your beliefs and align them to the Word of God.
As I said previously, " you seem to have forgotten the Scriptures about try the spirits, deceivers and deceptions shall wax worse, we shall know them by their fruit, "they shall make merchandise of you", vain talkers, be not deceived, to not be led away to false doctrine or follow after false teachings...
Tom said>>>> Your vindictive attacks are of a purely personal nature and you do not and cannot attack any of those mentioned from a doctrinal stance.
It is obvious to me, Tom that you have not fully read my articles. I have made my statements and supplied documentation to support them. You and your friends have postured, cried Lashon Hara, but have failed to supply one speck or trace, of evidence to refute my claims.You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how inaccurate it is. There's really not a whole lot personal about reporting facts and statements from a persons own mouth and published information. However, you are right...there is a bit of personal nature in this...and that is, I will fight the good fight as becomes someone who belongs to Jesus Christ. And if that means, applying the following...by all means at my disposal....
1 Timothy 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine . . . 19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. 21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality 22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure . .
Having set yourself up in spiritual leadership I would have thought you would have at least attempted to follow these Scriptures....
2
Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must
not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach,
patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose
themselves; if God peradventure will give them
repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of
the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him
at his will.
Galatians 6:6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
James
3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in
your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is
earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is
confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first
pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be
entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without
partiality, and without hypocrisy.
1
Peter 5:5:1 The elders which are among you I
exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the
sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory
that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you,
taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but
willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage,
but being ensamples to the flock.
Tom
said>>>>We will pray for you, that
if you have not committed the unpardonable sin, that
Yahweh will have mercy on you and call you to
repentance. Perhaps he will crush you spiritually so
that a true woman can emerge. And Vicky – YOU OF ALL
PEOPLE DO NEED TO STUDY LASHON HARAH – AN INDEPTH
STUDY!
Rabbi
Tom said>>And Vicky – YOU OF ALL PEOPLE DO NEED TO STUDY LASHON HARAH – AN INDEPTH STUDY
I really don't want to learn how to do Lashon Hara, Tom. As I said, I get enough examples sent to me. It's simply not what God calls us to.As for praying, Jesus said, John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
I do Thank you Tom for your concern. I think I will keep on worshiping My Savior, or the "Torah less j-e-s-u-s" as you and your very small group of followers prefer to call Him. If given a choice of being in Heaven with the billions of Christian brothers and sisters who have gone on reading a real bible and worshipping Jesus, or being there with you and your small group of supposedly Torah Observant followers, I will choose the first. I will pray for you as well.
1
John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that
Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not
the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath
the Father also.
1
John 4:4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit,
but try the spirits whether they are of God: because
many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit
that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and
this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have
heard that it should come; and even now already is it
in the world.
*****
For an in-depth discussion from a reader about the various Names, please see: Yahshua, Yehoshua, Y'shua, Yeshua, Iesous, Iesus, or Jesus The Sacred Name or True Name
Note: Since posting the various articles, the name of Union of Two House Messianic Congregations has been changed to : Union Of Nazarene Yisraelite Congregations, as of October 26, 2003
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